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Honestly it looks like we've got a HNer quoting a journalist quoting a bishop quoting a cardinal.

The cardinal who said 'until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope' died in 2015 (i.e. before Trump's first term)

The bishop who quoted them does hold the post you mention - but they didn't originate the quote, they just quoted it.



Thanks for this. The quote-of-a-quote in the original article was confusing, made worse by the fact that it was said by Robert who is not the new Pope, formerly known as Robert.




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