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I watched the video, and I still don't know what app.net is. "Social platform" is all I got, that's extremely vague.



Twitter, that you pay for, that has no adverts and that is developer friendly with the API.

I think that's a good summary: https://alpha.app.net/


I think thats a narrow short term view of it but easy to assume given the surface information. Messages need to be succinct and understandable in familiar contexts and i think Ost of the opinions are based on 'ad free twitter' which isnt the big excitement in the app.net community. Im cross posting. Im a supporter but not an employee. I have read a lot more in depth and here is my take. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4373394


But are developers going to have to pay for use of the API? And users will have to pay to use apps that use the API right?


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"Why would people pay to tell other people what they ate for lunch?"

Twitter and Facebook were fun when not everyone and their parents were on there. I'm hoping that the price tag keeps a lot of the people out who don't have anything of value to share. So far, from what I've seen on the alpha site, the conversations are way more interesting to me than most banter on Twitter. The higher limit of 256 characters helps too. I look forward to using App.net, whereas I find the Twitter experience increasingly frustrating.


Twitter's growth hasn't affected the quality of my Twitter experience at all. I just don't follow people who post crap. Is this a real problem people are having, or is it an invented justification for something they want to see succeed?


There are lots and lots of very valid arguments for both sides of this question. Personally, I think it's both. Even if it really isn't a real problem, that doesn't matter I don't think. What matters is if you can make enough people believe it's a problem. In life, perception really is reality in many cases. I'm reminded of the old saying "when the legend becomes fact, print the legend" for some reason too.

But to directly answer your question, I think at this point the only truly honest answer is...

We'll see.


The quality of content in a community is always higher when the community is smaller. Twitter conversations in the early days were all high-quality, too.

Social networks live and die by whether your friends are on them, though, and while I get the appeal of "keeping out the riff-raff", I'm having a really hard time swallowing the idea that you can reach critical mass (without which your product will fail) by charging for a product that people are used to getting for free.

If the team can reach critical mass, then awesome. But I think that it's going to be nearly impossible to sell to anyone but the subset of the early-adopter crowd who have a bone to pick with Facebook and Twitter, which is a very passionate, but very limited audience.


App.net has 8,000 paying customers and $550,000 in annual revenue, so I think we can say it already hit critical mass. For App.net to succeed, it didn't need millions of users, because the company is not dependent on venture capital or advertising.

I also don't see it as a typical social network, but more like a publishing platform for short posts — a mix of a micro blog, link log and photo album. I'd rather compare App.net to Tumblr and Posterous than to Twitter. Also, if readers want to respond to posts, they can do so on their own blog or on Facebook or Twitter. Charging subscribers an annual fee might become the service's biggest strength. I think it guarantees that App.net will attract very little passive users, the ones who sign up will actually use it.


"..because the company is not dependent on venture capital or advertising." -- Uh, yeah it is. They took millions from VCs.


I stand corrected. According to Crunchbase, they took $5 million from Andreessen Horowitz.

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/mixed-media-labs


> App.net has 8,000 paying customers and $550,000 in annual revenue

Many of whom were backers who were sufficiently curious to pay to get access to / see the product. The real kicker will come at renewal time, and how many of those customers remain.




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