On: Framework temporarily pausing some laptop sales in the US due to tariffs

[rayiner]

> If you have massive inventory in China or you've invested in a factory to build things at scale and now your US margins are underwater, I'm not sure what you do.

Don’t have massive production in China if you want to sell in the US. The writing has been on the wall for this for almost 20 years. Even Obama was talking about it in 2007-08.

[re-thc → rayiner]

> Don’t have massive production in China if you want to sell in the US.

How does this help? Everyone has already tried shifting to Vietnam, India, etc only to be hit by tariffs anyway.

[rayiner → re-thc]

Maybe you should build your factories in America if you want to sell to Americans. IDK.

[re-thc → rayiner]

Same applies for social media, software, services, etc right? They’d build their software in their own countries instead?

I’m not sure the US would be winning after crashing all the tech companies…

[rayiner → re-thc]

That's fine. AI will obsolete those jobs. And when it does we will want production in the US.

[ziml77 → rayiner]

In the same way that production if brought into the US will lean heavily on automation since it will be cheaper than the pay any US employee will demand.

[trhway → re-thc]

the reciprocal tariffs against US services will hit mostly blue states (and "blue" people), thus achieving domestic political goals.

[pmyteh → trhway]

Most trade war reciprocal tariffs are carefully targeted for political pressure rather than blanket. Under Republican presidents you might tariff whiskey (easily substitutable, made mostly in red states) and under Democratic ones Boeing or Facebook.

Not clear that works at this scale, though.

[Vilian → rayiner]

OK, start producing jeans for pennies 12 hours a day