On: Dijkstra On the foolishness of "natural language programming"

[antonvs]

Sure, you can define "proper" and "idea" to the claim post-facto to change what's being claimed, but the point is we do have ideas without language, and converting into language is not creating the idea.

[card_zero → antonvs]

Why not both? Yes, we have ideas without language: and, creating a form of words to express the idea is creating a new and somewhat different version.