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> Driverless systems aren't slightly safer than the average driver, they're significantly safer.

Waymo operates an extremely conservative system that uses human oversight, roof mounted LIDAR, 100% 3D mapped environment in a very limited deployment, etc. This isn't robust to demonstrate Tesla or other self-driving situation, often using just a couple of cameras and a 2D map of roadways.

Tesla has boasted about the value of their system, using the classic per mile argument to justify its advantages. Only the overwhelming bulk of Tesla FSD or autopilot miles are on highways, which statistically is much safer than any other form of auto transport. This number is then compared against the drunk on the unlit country road type grab bag of every other style of driving and declared the victor. And of course even for highway accidents, aside from extreme weather events accidents are often people who purposefully wouldn't be using any assists -- stunt driving and the like.

It all seems very dubious right now. I believe Waymo's stats, I don't remotely believe Tesla's. We'll see what happens as people start using it more in normal driving situations.



Seems robust enough for the scenarios it's applied to--and that's ok. One step forward could be self driving in certain areas.




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