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Ah I didn't know :( I see more conservative (anti-LGBTIQ+ in particular) talking points from tories though.

The UK is also on my list of "never travel to" countries anyway, it has been since Brexit and the xenophobic sentiments that empowered. Really the "taking back control" was really a euphemism for "less black faces on our streets". At least it seemed that way when I spoke to some of the more outspoken Brexit proponents in my circle. They turned totally rabiate anti-immigrant. All people that were decent before, by the way.

Obviously I will never go to the US again either. Though nobody has asked me to go there. I did get asked by work to go to some Google thing in London and I refused for that reason which was totally ok.



> Really the "taking back control" was really a euphemism for "less black faces on our streets".

I think you need a better understanding of the UK. Brexit was a "fuck you" to the white Polish, Romanian and Bulgarian faces on our streets.

While the political right of the UK had been "Eurosceptic" since losing the 1975 referendum, and there was the Cambridge Analytica scandal... the massive popularity of UKIP that gave rise to the Brexit was backlash against the mass immigration from the poorer eastern European countries that joined the EU in 2004 and 2007.

The Labour government at that time imposed no constraints on migration while all other EU countries (save Ireland and Sweden) did. It was a deliberate choice, partly to boost GDP and partly to "rub the right's nose in diversity" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8326501.stm)

And now that Brexit has happened, we have massively more immigration from (South) Asia and Africa. We replaced white faces with brown and black faces. Therefore, "taking back control" must have meant "we want more black faces on our streets"? (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...)


I feel people from post-Communist countries heavily underestimated the importance of labour law and social systems for the British. They were extremely cynical towards these, while for British both are part of their national identity as the industrial revolution took place on their soil. The competition on labour market was indeed the strongest argument that British populace picked up while voting for Brexit. The "white faces" and "black faces" dispute is irrelevant in UK, because in the racist "theories" Poles, Irish, and many others are not even white, while people from the former colonies are their countrymen. Did I earn my UK settled status with this comment?


Well, sort of. I'm not going to say there's no racism, there absolutely is, but the whole black/latin/white divide of the USA belongs in the USA, and trying to view British social status through an American lens produces inaccurate results.

The British have always been stratified by class. They are more likely to look down on you for your accent than your skin colour.

For example, people who graduated from Oxford or Cambridge are less than 1% of the population, but are 44% of the newspaper columnists in national newspapers, and are 71% of senior judges: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/elitist-britain-2...

In fact, you can go back to the Norman conquest of Britain (1066); people with Norman surnames are more likely to be well-off in modern Britain than those with Anglo-Saxon surnames. Generation after generation has kept wealth and power "in the family": https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-014-9219-y

Effectively, there is a governing class of specific families and bloodlines that runs Britain; the middle classes aren't in it, the working class aren't in it, the colonies (when Britain had them) weren't in it, and foreigners definitely aren't in it. The USA had a little sniff of this classism, with the W.A.S.Ps that could trace their roots back to the original US colonies getting uppity about more recent arrivals and classifying them as "not white", but it's nothing compared to the UK.

Atop that you have religious sectarianism. Britain colonised Ireland first, murdered the Celtic chiefs, and installed loyalists to King Billy. What you're seeing with EU immigration and Brexit already happened in the 1920s-1930s in the Second City of Empire; read about the economic conditions that brought about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs -- white (Protestant, native, working class) people feeling threatened by white (Catholic, Irish, deprived) immigrants looking for better economic opportunities




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