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It's kind of funny some operators have never had it in practice. For example, .es never had a public whois, and need to register with a national ID (and I think with a fixed IP address) to get access to it.


That need for a national ID hasn't been in place for a long time, AFAIK.

I have a .es (my nickname berkes, domain berk.es) for almost 16 years now, and live in the EU, but not in Spain. In the beginning I used a small company that offered services for non-spanish companies to register .es through them (I believe they technically owned the domains?). But today it's just in my local domain registrar without need for an ID.

That .es has no whois has struck me as somewhat of a benefit actually. Back in the days, it kept away a lot of spam from spammers that'd just lift email-addresses off the whois. My .com, .nl and other domains recieve(d) significant more such spam. Let alone phone-number and other personal details delivered over an efficient, decentralized network. Though recent privacy addons(?) have mitigated that a little.


I meant for accessing the whois, not for registering. If you try any type of WHOIS request you'll be replied with a message sending you to nic.es site, where you'll be presented with a captcha if you try to get information about a registered domain.

It's not very well documented, but you can register at a government site using a national ID and they'll open WHOIS access for a fixed IP address, for a maximum of 10 queries a minute. [0]

Context for any of you not used to the .es ccTLDs: Until some years ago, and simplifying a bit, if you wanted to register a .es TLD you had to be an Spanish national or company, and be the legal holder of the domain name you wanted to register (or your name and surnames).

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  0: https://sede.red.gob.es/es/procedimientos/solicitud-de-acceso-servicio-de-whois-por-el-puerto-43


Usually, the need to use an ID is only for private persons (and usually only if they are nationals). Anyone else should not need that. The general theory is that a nation can only verify data that they themselves have.

Some ccTLD's have rules against registrations by people not located within the country that owns the ccTLD, in which case a valid national id or organization number would be required. From what I can see, .es does not have that requirement.


Se my other comment [0] but I meant for accessing the WHOIS service, not for registering. If you try any type of WHOIS request you'll be replied with a message sending you to nic.es site, where you'll be presented with a captcha if you try to get information about a registered domain.

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  0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43392356


Requiring a captcha is not even close to requiring a national ID.


If you read my linked comment, I'm talking about using the WHOIS service [0] ICANN is sunsetting that's been talked about in the post, not about getting domain information in the web.

The only way (that I've found) to use the WHOIS service with the .es ccTLD is whitelisting a fixed IP address with your national ID at a government site [1]. And even then, you're rate limited to 10 queries per minute.

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  0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHOIS
  1: https://sede.red.gob.es/es/procedimientos/solicitud-de-acceso-servicio-de-whois-por-el-puerto-43


For example, .es never had a public whois, and need to register with a national ID (and I think with a fixed IP address) to get access to it.

Is this new? I had an .es domain around 2011, and am not Spanish, or even European.


Se my other comment [0] but I meant for accessing the WHOIS service, not for registering. If you try any type of WHOIS request you'll be replied with a message sending you to nic.es site, where you'll be presented with a captcha if you try to get information about a registered domain.

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  0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43392356


You don't need WHOIS to register a domain.




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