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According to Bjorn's testing - efficiency trumps all of the above.


Who is that? I am not sure why you would assume everyone knows who that is?

Efficiency certainly isn't unimportant but fast charging can overcome it.

I would also argue that EVs can't succeed unless fast charging overcomes efficiency. For EVs to succeed and overtake ICE vehicles they need to work for vehicles that are inherently inefficient, such as minivans, 3-row family SUVs, trucks, and commercial vans.

This is especially true since large vehicles are often the most profitable in the US.


One of the biggest EV testers out there. If you know EVs you know him.

All three are important and sure you can somewhat brute-force either aspect, but ultra fast charging stations are not as prevalent as you think it is. Most stations are still 50kW, but there are few 150kW. 250kW and more are still super rare.


Just returning to this thread to point out how BYD is showing off 1000kW charging.

I'd bet $10 that China is well-covered with 1000kW charging within 10 years.


I accept your bet. What does “well-covered” mean?


I'm sorry but if you provide zero links and minimal context you can't assume people know who you're talking about by first name alone especially when it's a YouTuber with under 350,000 followers.

And again efficiency is important but EVs won't succeed unless they can include inefficient vehicles that are a necessity or a strong preference for many buyers, which is why 250kW+ charging stations are important if the US is ever going to adopt EVs as a full ICE replacement.

If I need a truck with an 8 foot bed and a body-on-frame vehicle to carry building supplies to my commercial property that I own across state lines and it currently gets 20mpg using the most advanced ICE technology on the market, I'm going to need 250kW+ chargers available if I'm ever going to replace that vehicle with an EV. Doubly so if I need to tow a trailer.




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