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Seriously - why then have all the moves against Ukraine were when Trump was not in office?

Russia has been invading Ukraine for _14 years_, first under Obama/Biden then under Biden/Harris. Clinton was secretary of state. And the west continues to buy gas from them, etc.

Maybe there's some 4d chess I'm missing but feels like gaslighting on how tough we've supposedly been on Russia aside from Trump.






The US was manifestly not tough during the Obama years, and that was a mistake -- since Russia then tried to invade the whole country in 2022.

I don't really understand the rest of your comment, since it sounds like you haven't been reading the news since 2022.


I'm addressing the extraordinary claim that "Trump is a Russian agent" and that now we are suddenly now being soft on Russia.

If so, why didn't Putin mount a full invasion in 2016-2020? Why wait until 2022 when the supposedly tough Biden administration (which included veterans from the 2011 Crimea invasion)? It feels like gaslighting that, at minimum, we've been nothing but soft and ineffectual on Russia the entire time.


> If so, why didn't Putin mount a full invasion in 2016-2020?

One possible explanation is that Russia is a petro-state. The average oil price between 2010 and 2014 was about $130/barrel. Then in a few short months it dropped by 50% and stayed there until this day (with a short exception around the start of the invasion when it was above $100 for about half a year).

[1]https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-cha...


> why then have all the moves against Ukraine were when Trump was not in office?

In regards to the timing of the two Russian invasions, perhaps Putin felt those were his best chances to make such moves.

The first time when Russia invaded Crimea on February 20, 2014 was because of the Maidan Revolution. At the time Ukrainian government was a mess. The then Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, who was an ally of Putin, was to be ousted on the next day of the Russian invasion and eventually fled to Russia.

As for the timing when Russia invaded Ukraine again on February 24, 2022, I think one of the reasons was because of US troops chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan happened a few months ago. And after that, the US would be politically unlikely to get itself involved directly in another overseas war so soon; and Putin hoped this time it would be a blitzkrieg coup, and then he could replace Zelensky with a puppet president.

I am not saying that Putin intentionally invaded Ukraine at a time when Trump was or wasn't in office; I only feel that these are two very opportune moments for Putin to seize, which both happened to be at times when Trump was not in office.




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