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DOGE isn't about efficiency, it is about removing checks and balances. Those are there to prevent malware like the GOP to take over the system.

I hope the people behind the submission get their message across. But you shouldn't have the conversation about efficiency. That is entirely the distraction.

Don't talk me about efficient governance of autocracy. It always ends in burning down the land on which it feasts.



> Don't talk me about efficient governance of autocracy.

Autocracies are not efficient at all. There's corruption everywhere.

The larger the state, the more opportunities for corruption. Of course, dismantling the fat state will anger many - those who are fed by it. Unfortunately some "false positives" are part of the process. All the rest is poetry.


We are so way beyond any reasonable "you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette" arguments, and those are cheap talking points that I could have gotten on fox news that you are mindlessly repeating. You are tossing the baby out with the bathwater destroying all checks and balances as you go. This is the death of reason and nuance. This is how autocracy gets a foot in the door. This is the beginning of the end of democracy. And you're cheering on the autocrats.


You should be afraid of one thing. The sane-looking replacement of Trump.

When the fascists conclude the take-over is complete, they will prop up someone with a more acceptable appearance, and the public will be relieved. The media will keep a narrow focus on just the drama of actualities. But still, a tyranny installed, democracy gone. And people will accept it as the new normal. Everyone will keep normalizing everything, the rituals of democracy as a smokescreen for the powerful.

  Fake symbols. Fake titles. For the eyes that want to be blinded.


You act like our institutions haven't already been ineffectual smokescreens for power to work behind the scenes. Trump's election is the most democratic thing to happen in decades. People are just shocked to find out that an elected representative actually has the power to do things other than sitting there like a puppet.


This is the work of decades long degradation, of pushing narratives, of selecting people into positions.

Yes it has been a slippery slope. And now an avalanche, like planned.

The work is you. You should be fed with so many distractions, so many logical fallacies, such that in the end you will say

  Trump's election is the most democratic thing to happen in decades.

They are the few. You are the numerous. So you should excuse them for what they do. You just did.


I can easily just turn around and say something like:

"The work is you. You should be fed with so many distractions, so many logical fallacies, such that in the end you will say

> Trump's presidency is the beginning of a fascist coup to destroy Democracy"

At this point, this is not a struggle over reality-consensus, it is just a battle of who's propaganda is more convincing.


My friend, the world is not binary. It is not Dems vs Reps. It is not a matter of perfect democracy, and fascist tyranny, with nothing in between.

The goal is the latter though. The super wealthy and powerful head to an era where they decide what happens, they do not want the rules and the law apply to them.

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Angry about a transgender you have never seen? Good, very good. They want your power.

It is you or them.


It is kind of funny that you accuse me of adhering to a democratic-republican binary when it comes to my world view before immediately also accusing me of only holding the beliefs that I do because of trans people. I wonder which political binary you adhere to?


It is not about you, it is me trying to help you observe what happens. It is about people just like you. Society.

The outrage over transgenders are psychological tricks to split a populace. Let people make it their identity. Normalize bullying, normalize bullshit, normalize "might makes right".

They need it, because they are few and you are numerous. You must excuse them. You should be fighting your peer.

Or at least believe both sides are not clean, so you should excuse their power grab. That is the binary belief trap I spotted.

  "Haha, see the tears of those hypocrites, lol". 
Well, your house is burning.


I'm sorry, but you're kind of delusional and it's going to be hard to continue this conversation if you genuinely believe that transgender ideology outrage is a ploy by the rich and elite to divide and conquer the working class, and not that the entrenched democratic liberal elites tried to force a country composed mostly of rural hicks into accepting men playing in women's sports and it backfired horribly.


A ploy? Why not exploit it?

  "They are operating the kids!!"
  "They eat the dogs, they eat the dogs!!" 

Whatever falsehood can distract you. That is why you only see chaos in the media. Everything is a tool. Everyone is a resource. Prop up some Quislings in the other team, the louder and the delusional the better. There must be war.

As soon as society accepts the lies because the team they think that is their team is winning, you go from bad to irrecoverable worse.

Like Steve Bannon said, just yesterday, on CPAC (the conservative parties and associations):

  "fight, fight, fight!" 
He did a nazi salute to top it of. But he needs you to find an excuse for that. America was offered the culture war and it took it.


Is the quote about dogs supposed to be about China?


No, an ethnic minority in some Springfield.


> Trump's election is the most democratic thing to happen in decades.

Gerrymandering and voter suppression are not very democratic.


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That is the lucky case, when people will want to recognize it.

Steve Bannon did the Hitler salute after shouting "fight fight fight" on CPAC. That is the alliance of conservatives.

People keep making excuses. But have mercy upon them, as they do not know what they do. "Social media" are a hellish combination of drug and a pathway for psyops. Americans now rather own the neighbor they have seen on "social media" than saving their own house.

There is a small frame of time left. When enough people in the media are willing to kill off their career, they can overthrow corporate owners and tell the people that the spades are indeed the spades. But it will be suicide, at least for their career. (Even the army is purged now, not a discussion topic on HN so I guess many don't even know.)

Europe needs to cut themselves off from the oligarch networks, as the pandemic might spread there too.




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