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There is always going to be bias in your hiring, because bias inflects the entirety of a person's life, whether that bias is good (wealthy parents, e.g.) or bad (being born with fetal alcohol syndron, e.g.)

There is no unbiased state.

Being anti-diversity is a bias in favor of existing biases, which in this country tends to mean: white, wealthy, male, able bodied, etc.

It is a very simple concept to understand!



Correct, there is no unbiased state. It's also impossible to enforce one. It's impossible to perfectly define the combination of bias wavelengths for an individual or group, so it's impossible to define an inverse wavelength that objectively cancels it out. And in the futile attempt to enforce such a thing, you are going to generate enormous, justified animosity.

Being treated unfairly because of a well-meaning person's unconscious bias (which you can never even know for sure exactly when it's happening to you) is way less hideous than being treated unfairly out in the open by a correcting policy.

Secondarily: It's not a simple concept, and the condescending suggestion is unwelcome.


I see it differently, to wit: being treated unfairly out in the open by a correcting policy is way is wey less heinous than being born--through no fault or one's own--as a member of a historically and currently disadvantaged group, and then being told "nuh uh, get fucked" when someone tries to give you preferential treatment.

To me what is most galling is the way the anti-DEI crowd exudes pure entitlement; sometimes in life things dont go you way. Oh fuckin well. You get up and try again. I taught my kids that lesson when they were like 7 or 8. It's super embarrassing to see grown ass adults be that small and selfish.


This is a longform "nuh uh"


What are countries that hire more fairly than the US? I don't think there are many. Not even semi-homogenous countries hire fairly. They'd be biased against age, sex, looks, height, region, accent, baldness, etc.

Japan, China, India, Germany, UK, South Africa? I don't think any of them are better than us at hiring fairly.

What I mean by avoiding bias, is don't use bigoted biases --of course we hire with a bias to further the team or company mission within the bounds of the law. Does that even have to be said?


Brother, you and I must have veey different definitions of bigotry. The bigotry i see is the anti dei folks refusing to address the legacy of historical injustice that they currently benefit from.




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