> You only listed peer government grant agencies — which people believe have similar problems to NIH.
No. I also gave two other options.
Get the overhead rate of corporations from government contracts.
Or get the overhead rate that corporations pay to universities, just like the government.
> And the same people generally believe that’s also full of fraud and waste. So what’s your argument?
So then compare overhead rates in commercial contracts between corporations.
> So why don’t you do that, to prove them wrong? It sounds really easy.
Oh yes. I will send NIH, Musk, and Trump a letter, they will realize the error of their ways and change course. Come on. Now you aren't discussing things in good faith.
Although for the record major universities, including mine, have already written such letters to the administration. Much good that did.
All of these numbers are publicly available. Feel free to look them up. It's bread and butter economics.
But no. This isn't about proving anyone wrong. These people don't care about right or wrong. We are so past that. This is about their attempt to break the system. The fallout of which will be disastrous.
The impact of the wholesale dismantlement of our research capacity won't be seen by the average person for a while. Maybe a good 10 to 20 years. Then slowly you'll notice that all of the new companies, medicines, etc. have a different language on them, their names sound a bit foreign, that foreign stock markets are getting attractive, and that someone else is getting rich instead of us.
Restarting research will be nearly impossible. Europe has been trying to restart its research enterprise for more than half a century and the US still dominates despite massive EU investment. The biggest winner will be China who is paying a lot to attract researchers.
No. I also gave two other options.
Get the overhead rate of corporations from government contracts.
Or get the overhead rate that corporations pay to universities, just like the government.
> And the same people generally believe that’s also full of fraud and waste. So what’s your argument?
So then compare overhead rates in commercial contracts between corporations.
> So why don’t you do that, to prove them wrong? It sounds really easy.
Oh yes. I will send NIH, Musk, and Trump a letter, they will realize the error of their ways and change course. Come on. Now you aren't discussing things in good faith.
Although for the record major universities, including mine, have already written such letters to the administration. Much good that did.
All of these numbers are publicly available. Feel free to look them up. It's bread and butter economics.
But no. This isn't about proving anyone wrong. These people don't care about right or wrong. We are so past that. This is about their attempt to break the system. The fallout of which will be disastrous.
The impact of the wholesale dismantlement of our research capacity won't be seen by the average person for a while. Maybe a good 10 to 20 years. Then slowly you'll notice that all of the new companies, medicines, etc. have a different language on them, their names sound a bit foreign, that foreign stock markets are getting attractive, and that someone else is getting rich instead of us.
Restarting research will be nearly impossible. Europe has been trying to restart its research enterprise for more than half a century and the US still dominates despite massive EU investment. The biggest winner will be China who is paying a lot to attract researchers.