example from today, timed with a stopwatch, on a 5950X 5GHz CPU: from the moment...

example from today, timed with a stopwatch, on a 5950X 5GHz CPU: from the moment I click on "debug" in my IDE,

- lldb takes 40 seconds to reach "main"

- 2 minutes 36 total to reach the GUI and start being able to reproduce things

- gdb coredumps as soon as I want to put a breakpoint so it's unuseable

    $ lldb --version
    lldb version 19.1.7
    $ gdb  --version
    GNU gdb (GDB) 16.1