On: Vim Roadmap 2025

[Daunk]

"Vim mode" in editors like Zed is great and all, but to me, Vim is much more than just a set of shortcuts. What I love about Vim is how seamlessly it integrates with the terminal and shell. I can pipe, redirect, and manipulate text with Bash, use any CLI tool, and move fluidly between my editor and my system. The terminal is insanely fast, works on any computer and OS, scriptable, and gives me access to everything I need.

Zed looks great, and I'm glad it has a Vim mode... but without that deep integration, it's missing what makes Vim truly powerful imo.

[nicce → Daunk]

I believe that the use case you describe is a bit different than where you would use Zed primarily. If I have a code base with 100k lines of code, and I am developing that, I don't hop from terminal to editor and back by using the same terminal instance. I have different terminal window for that. Closing the editor window would lose too much context.

[crvdgc → nicce]

My colleague taught me to never close the editor, but just suspend it to background. You can achieve a lot with Ctrl-Z, fg, and :e!.

[cassepipe → crvdgc]

I have Ctrl + J/K set to switch terminal tabs, even faster to switch in my opinion

[nicce → crvdgc]

Oh, good point!

[hellcow → nicce]

tmux solves for this.

[v3ss0n → Daunk]

Terminal is not insanely fast. UI wise it is not efficient. Rendering is slower than vscode too even with GPU powered terms

[dsr_ → v3ss0n]

If your terminal is not insanely fast, you are using 1980s equipment or there is something wrong.

And most fast terminals these days use GPU rendering.

[v3ss0n → dsr_]

if you don't believe benchmark terminal Uis against Zed . Benchmark on selection of huge potion of text, rendering, edition of big files in real time.