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I honestly don't want to go the route of arguing over language trivia. Let's say between C++ and C I always pick C. And my first serious language was C++ of the "modern cpp" flavour.

I mean, there are things I like: bits taken from the ML language family, tooling, sane approach to OOP, error handling.

But the culture of trying to pull everything in... It is a road to hell.

The difference between Rust and Go here is that Go took 10 years to come up with a generics proposal, and it does solve a massive problem with the language.



I don't want to argue about language trivia, I'm interested why do you perceive it as such?

> But the culture of trying to pull everything in... It is a road to hell.

What part do you mean? Is it async? I'm as well very critical of it as well.

Or do you mean. Const? The compile time reflections?


Well, if you insist...

I've already mentioned things that are universally praised.

I don't like having 2 macro systems, async, convoluted syntax and also am not sure that the (unsafe) consequences of using a borrow checker are worth it.

To me Rust sounds like the story of C++ (or Common Lisp) all over again: what if we add all the cools stuff? Like, ALL THE THINGS. And Rust is a single implementation language. Nothing limits the speed of thought!


K&R C, C89, C11, C17, C23, C2y.

Additionally extensions from Turbo C, Borland C, MSVC C, xlC, aC, Green Hills C, TI C, ARM C, Microbit C, clang C, GCC C,Intel C, CUDA C, ISPC,OpenCL C, Renderscript C...


I know, I know. You forgot C99. C is bigger than it seems. In my case it was gcc C99 / gnuc99 and onwards on the usual POSIX-likes.

But in all honesty, starting with ANSI C and onwards the language itself didn't change all that much, at least not in the same way C++ did. C99 was a serious cleanup but that's about it.

Go the language evolves at a similar pace, most things happen outside of the core.

Now what's interesting is that C++ is (almost) all C's quirks multiplied by the latest things WG21 decides to pull into the language. And WG21 does indeed add a lot.

At some point I just lost the point of it all.




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