On: Morgan Stanley Follows Citi, BofA in Quitting Climate Group

[polski-g]

The government is doing very meaningful things:

https://x.com/AndrewKelleyCA/status/1683151483687116802?t=47...

[Yizahi → polski-g]

We can't count emissions, at most we can estimate them and hope that we would be only one order of magnitude off and not worse. Numbers like that are politically motivated.

On the other hand we can directly measure actual gas in the atmosphere. Every one of us can replicate these measurements with 100$ analyzer. These numbers show that the planet as a whole is doing jack shit regarding reducing climate change:

https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/

[sfblah → polski-g]

I don't see any evidence there that the government did this. Isn't it more likely this is a result of the US shipping all its manufacturing overseas?

[andy_ppp → polski-g]

I have no idea what that includes? For example presumably Chinese goods that Americans buy are excluded? What about shipping? Etc.

[darzu → polski-g]

This is missing much, including that we've outsourced our manufacturing (and thus CO2 from manufacturing) but we still buy lots of stuff that requires intense manufacturing.