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> In 2014 Ukraine overthrew their (democratically elected) pro-Russian president with extensive support from the US

Wrong. The Ukrainian parliament voted 328-vs-0 to hold early elections after the sitting president got over hundred protesters killed and ran away from the country fearing criminal prosecution.

> leading numerous regions that are heavily ethnic Russian, including Crimea, to declare their independence.

Wrong again. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that it was an operation by Russian military and security services. They could not find any evidence of an actual separatist movement.

> In 2019 Ukraine added joining NATO as a goal to their constitution

... which is 5 years after Russia invaded Ukraine.

> the US was obviously rapidly moving in that direction with them

Again, obviously wrong. Three years later, by the time Russia launched the full-scale invasion, Ukraine was still nowhere near joining the NATO. We saw rapid timeline with Sweden and Finland. Informal negotiations started early 2022, formal invitation issued June 2022, all ratifications complete by national parliaments by April 2023 (Finland) and March 2024 (Sweden). To this day, Ukraine has not even been invited to start talks. The process hasn't even begun yet.

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What's the point of posting obvious lies and excuses? These are not even valid arguments, but clear factually incorrect statements.






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