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I didn't see it as tone policing. From my point of view, I saw a very interesting application being shared and I hoped it would be good and prosperous so i can use it. When the first comment says "i hate that you do X" it is a bit discouraging towards a team of developers who have probably poured tons of free hours into making this. Words play with psychology, and it is my personal interest that these devs have good morale to make this app great, and that meand giving them feedback about obvious mistakes in a tone that does not hurt this morale. I hope that make sense



"i hate that you do x" is perfectly normal, you're being weird.


Taking "I hate that you do x" as a combative or rude dismissal is perfectly normal too.


nah, you're weird.


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And that's not even the words used, they said:

> I absolutely hate <stuff that does X> like this


That's not even the words I used either.

> I absolutely hate having stuff automatically create anything in my home directory like this.

Which is

> I absolutely hate <action> like this

Which is not

> I absolutely hate <thing that does action> like this

I quite like grayjay. I just dislike this one thing it does.


I don't think it's badly worded either.

And FUTO is a commercial for-profit operation, not voluntary driven. Their devs are paid.


This is a cultural problem.

What is considered impolite in the US or the UK is considered just being straightforward in e.g. Scandinavia.

I am German, we're kind of in the middle between someone from e.g. Finland and someone from e.g. or the UK or US with what we consider "ok" or rather crossing into rude territory.

A common exchange I witnessed in a meeting at work (Nokia):

Finnish developer: And if we follow this suggestion we will all look like idiots.

UK developer: I hear you.

Deciding which one is more impolite or impolite at all is left as an exercise to the reader. ;)

You get my point.


It's not even impolite in the US, the people tone policing are being very weird. It's perfectly normal to say "I hate x behavior".


It's not normal to see someone doing x behavior, initiate a conversation with them and say "I hate x behavior." They're not tone policing you when they tell you that you come off like an asshole when you do that.


That's not at all what's happening here so it's irrelevant.


Dude, be civil, is givin me second hand shame




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