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The police won’t help you. It’s not their job.





I was in Singapore in 2013 and there was a big sign on a street saying:

Crime Alert

THEFT OF BICYCLE

AT THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD

ON 20 MARCH 2013 @ 7 AM

Witnesses, please call Tanglin Police Division

(phone number redacted)


It depends on the city.

> Police to give out free air tag tracking devices to combat rise in stolen vehicles

https://www.princewilliamtimes.com/news/police-to-give-out-f...


Move, or elect better local politicians. Your city is broken.

we can't all live in Bedford Falls, and the police aren't there for the benefit of the every-person no matter where you live.

it's a nice bit of propaganda that they're there for us, but I urge anyone with that idea to seek out and research the history and origins of the modern police.

hint : in the US they first emerged as 'slave patrols', and then later modernized into 'industrial labor controls', and things weren't all that much better across the ocean in London with Sir Robert Peel and his version of the 'police service'.


> the history and origins of the modern police

> in the US they first emerged as 'slave patrols'

> Sir Robert Peel and his version of the 'police service'

I assume that prior to the "modern" police, policing was still necessary, since there were lawbreakers and troublemakers since time immemorial. What do you regard as the substantive difference between the pre-modern police force and the modern? Did the former somehow serve "all of us" better than the latter?


Typically law enforcement was DIY, done by a mob, or done at the behest/in the interest of a local strongman (king or lord).

That led to extremely selective enforcement at the best of times.

The idea of a professional, independent force that served the public and preferred formal laws was the innovation.

Previously you’d need to either deal with it yourself, or track down a local patron and hope they cared enough to assign some muscle to deal with it on your behalf - and didn’t favor the perp more. Think ‘Godfather’. In those cases, written law was rarely a priority either.


Different local politicians won’t change the legal fact that the police have no obligation whatsoever to investigate or prevent crime. It’s simply not in the job description.

Err… what is their job, then, if not investigating and preventing crime? That pet theory with the slave patrols of yours, by the way, isn’t it; that’s a hoax. The modern police in the USA and other countries stems from the British police, which did exactly what they are supposed to do, since ages.

The police are the enforcement arm of the ownership class.

They apply the law as required to enforce the the socioeconomic order. This is why when people who aren’t custodians of land or cash flows ask them to investigate or solve crimes they rarely do.

The selective application of the law is how the current prerogatives of the ownership class are implemented in society.

This is why it’s illegal to do cocaine at work if you’re a poor person flipping burgers, but not if you’re an investment banker.


We need humans 2.0 for that to happen.

Better to get rid of the police and let people get actual justice themselves.

I'm sure that would end wonderfully.

It worked for thousands of years.

They will at best waste your time, and at worst they will cause you and your family harm for involving them. In Toronto even a stolen car is not enough to get their attention if you are not a high-profile business owner.

At best they will help you with stolen property, but that is rare.

Mythically rare. They're more likely to steal from you.



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