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And Apple did this for two generations and not enough of people one bought it but it is still available used .

https://www.apple.com/by/iphone-12/specs/ (12 mini)

https://support.apple.com/en-us/111873

I would recommend to return the phone and get the 13 mini which should last awhile




If I get a 13 mini today, updates will last 3 years. That is not much for what it is still a fairly expensive phone


+1 for the 13 mini if form factor is your primary concern (and given the sizes of even the 'small' mobile phone offerings of recent years I completely understand why that would be).

I upgraded an eight year old SE (first generation) to an SE3 thinking it would be the obvious choice, then promptly replaced it with the 13 mini within a week (fortunately still available at the time).

The difference is small on paper but noticable in your hands, and I honestly feel like the 13 mini is the spiritual successor to the SE series while the SE3 is a weird relative that you don't really want to have to interact with.

For some reason the slightly more boxy and grip friendly design of the SE1 and SE2 was changed in the SE3 to have the curves that were introduced in (I think?) the iPhone 6, despite the SE series having a slightly more square design up to that point. But the SE3 also inherited the lower raw technical specs that were expected from the SE series.

So somehow the 13 mini wins in terms of both form factor _and_ tech capabilities/new Apple features (such as Face ID over Touch ID).


The problem with the 13 mini is it's lack of touchid. it's fine otherwise and I'd pick one up in a heartbeat if it did, but it doesn't, so I won't. really waiting to see how the SE4 goes. I'm. envious of some of android's devices and features, the main thing keeping me locked into apple's ecosystem is iMessage.


Agree, Touch ID is the one thing I still really miss from the SE. Face ID is usually not an issue, but there are always cases that result in more friction than with Touch ID.

Sometimes you don't quite catch it at the right angle (and sometimes it sees you when you're not even looking), and other times you just don't quite have enough fave visible for it to work (for me usually when I'm doomscrolling in bed with my face squished into a pillow, so maybe that's a sign).


Face ID is far better for me than touch id.


There’s no touchid on any other phone apple currently sells; I would bet against having it on a newly released apple device.


Yea I really want the iPad Air 4th gen TouchID on the power button which would keep the screen layout and size but still have the security of a fingerprint.


The SE3 is good enough and not too big


The only, only reason I ever buy anything but the smallest phone they offer is because the best cameras are never on the smallest devices. The extra size is pure down-side for me, and I don't really give a shit about slightly faster processors or what have you (I hardly burden the low-end ones), but I do find when looking back at older photos I always appreciate when I've had better cameras, so I hesitate to go too low-end on those.

I'd pay about the same (or maybe even exactly the same, but feel a little annoyed about it) for a small Apple phone with the same camera as the expensive big models.


I choose the cheapest technically up-to-date one. I really don't care about the camera, the gap between generation is mostly not interesting. Actually the only reason I had to replace the last one is that Apple stopped supporting it with the latest iOS...


I love SE3, had SE2 before it. I love the phone and the size, but I do NOT love the battery life.. It's manageable though.


I have https://iwalkmall.com/products/cute-portable-charger-4500mah to extend the battery life when I'm on the go


I'd be scared to break the thing: it is so big and directly connected. It wouldn't fit into a pocket anyway...

Also I wouldn't choose one with a lightning connector, better with a USB-C (or A) female port, so I could also use it for some other devices too if necessary.


battery life is great for moderate use in my experience. Won't support watching videos all day, but I usually get almost two days of life out of it.


Battery life is not excellent indeed. I have cables and extra battery most of the time when out for a day.


It is rounded and slippery and big enough that it exposes double-tap to make the screen slide down.


I preferred the 4 and 5 size and shape. Hate the double-tap too...




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