That doesn't pass as an excuse to lie to the people because Trump or someone else is also doing it. We have fact checkers for this regardless.
The Democrats campaigned on being the better party, a new clean slate and to move on and persuaded voters to not vote for the convicted felon (Trump). Yet he still won the election.
My point is Biden should have just told the press that he will pardon his son, instead of repeatedly saying that he would not and then goes and does it anyway.
Is it fair to say that he lied to everyone and also what else are they lying to us about?
We're splitting hairs over something that was, in all reality, a targeted political attack on someone because their dad got elected. I would encourage you to read the press release. Hunter Biden got charged for something that almost no one else does (filling out a gun form incorrectly)
There is no reason to invest this much effort into something so miniscule. It pales in comparison to the dangerous lies and behavior exhibited by MAGA (see: January 6th)
That waters down the felony convictions and what they were related to. Trump paid off a pornstar and tried to hide it in his financials so his election chances weren't affected.
One is related to running for President of the United States and the other is someone who has a drug addiction and who isn't running for any sort of office.
> That waters down the felony convictions and what they were related to.
I don't think that's how it works. He wasn't charged with election interference or for violating campaign laws.
But, given your take here, I assume you must feel that Hilary Clinton should have faced potential jail time when she failed to fill out a form and interfered with her opposition's presidential campaign:
You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself.
Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid.
Hillary I'll give to you because she shoud've faced consequences for the behavior involved in the email scandal. Using bleach bit on hard drives to hide evidence is criminal IMO.
> You're misinformed on everything you mentioned. Trump was convicted in the "hush money" case. His classified documents case was thrown out by a federal judge who has questionable ethics and she was also appointed by Trump himself.
Exactly how am I misinformed? I never said he was convicted in the classified documents case, I said that he faced 40 felony charges for it and potential jail time:
The grand jury indictment brought 40 felony counts against Trump related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents
> Biden worked with the office that handles classified documents to return them. Trump and his legal team were hiding them and didn't respond to inquiries leading to the FBI raid.
I know, and I figured you say this because this is how you're able to contort the facts to justify your world view, but Biden still did mishandle classified documents intentionally and he wasn't charged for it. And just because he gave them back when they asked doesn't reverse that fact. Remember, he wasn't let off the hook because he was innocent.
By the way, I have no dog in this fight. I dislike them all equally. I just find it frustrating that people can so easily jump through hoops to "explain" how their team's wrongdoings are ok but refuse to apply the same logic when the call is against the other team. And that normally comes with claims of "misinformation", just like you're accusing me of here.
Biden did not intentionally mishandle classified data. The government understands that as part of your job description at that level of government, you take documents with you. It only becomes a problem when you don't work with them to return those after you've been notified of the issue.
I'm not a fan of sane washing Trump's behavior and trying to draw parallels between him and the Dems when they're just not equal. It reeks of "but muh both sides" contrarinism style argument.
> able to contort the facts to justify your world view
There was a special counsel dedicated to Biden's document investigation and the person leading it was a Trump-appointed lawyer who said there was a clear difference between the two cases[0]. You should note that Biden was not charged by that counsel as there wasn't enough evidence that he willfully retained the documents.
> Hur’s report says the differences between the two cases are “clear.” Unlike Biden — who cooperated with investigators, agreed to searches of his homes and sat for a voluntary interview — the allegations in Trump’s case present “serious aggravating facts,” Hur wrote.
> For instance, prosecutors say, after the Justice Department issued a subpoena for the records in May 2022, Trump asked his own lawyers if he could defy the request and said words to the effect of, “I don’t want anybody looking through my boxes.”
> “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?” one of his lawyers described him as saying, according to the indictment.
I do not care about what Jon Stewart says either, lol.
I know what happened, and your link agrees with what I said.
From your link:
In Biden’s case, special counsel Robert Hur, a former U.S. attorney for Maryland nominated by Trump, concluded in a report released Thursday that the president should not face criminal charges, despite finding evidence that Biden willfully retained classified information.
They didn't charge him because his diminished mental state would have made it difficult to convince a jury that his actions were "willful". That's very different from them concluding that his actions were not willful.
> I do not care about what Jon Stewart says either
It was an example of how it's actually possible (but rare) to hate Trump and still have the capacity to see the world without blinders on. But good for you for not caring.
I guess we're both grasping then. Either way, these cases are not equivalent and there is no point in wasting time over something so miniscule. And, for people who aren't even running for office at that.
The Democrats campaigned on being the better party, a new clean slate and to move on and persuaded voters to not vote for the convicted felon (Trump). Yet he still won the election.
My point is Biden should have just told the press that he will pardon his son, instead of repeatedly saying that he would not and then goes and does it anyway.
Is it fair to say that he lied to everyone and also what else are they lying to us about?