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No, they had the option of having a real conversation in private about what we could do to improve the overall situation.

Instead what I got was "It'd be a real shame if you're no longer around", and other equally dismissive behavior, and considering this was a situation in which a maintainer was pushing for something that would likely have led to security vulnerabilities and was being dismissive of criticism I didn't feel that was something we could let slide.

Priorities, people.




> No, they had the option of having a real conversation in private about what we could do to improve the overall situation.

Abusing others individually in public, but expecting a quiet word on the side about “the overall situation” when it comes to your own behavior. I hope you realize something from this.


Do you want to de-escalate or make flame wars?


I want superiority de-coupled from technical expertise in the minds of the people who have the latter.

Taking his personal struggles out of kernel development and onto Hacker News was the escalation – pointing out his hypocrisy is only trying to get people who agree with him to realize that they’re wrong.


`I want superiority de-coupled from technical expertise`

So you want to take the power to produce taken away from the producers and coalesce it into the hands of those who do not produce for the sole purpose of controlling those who do produce.

You're literally a walking Orwell quote.


No Kent, really.


I've gotten into arguments that were even more heated with maintainers who introduced data corruption bugs into code I wrote in the core block layer, without CCing me, which then hit users I support, and then had to track down, and then had them put up ridiculous fights over getting the bugs fixed.

Context matters, and also, if we're going to have standards for professional conduct they do need to be about more than just language.

We shouldn't be punching down, but we shouldn't be insulating maintainers from criticism when they're being incompetent, either.




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