On: Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

[gregable]

Except you can't. Every browser on iOS uses Safari's rendering engine. Chrome/Firefox on iOS are effectively reskinned Safari. This is an apple requirement. The rendering engine being the important part here when talking about standards and such.

[fenomas → gregable]

> effectively reskinned Safari

It's worse than that, even - IIRC the renderer that other browsers have to use is slower and more limited than the one Safari uses.

So other browsers are effectively reskinned hobbled Safari.

[dcow → gregable]

Every time this discussion happens a non-trivial number of people reveal they’ve fallen into this trap of believing other browsers are allowed on iOS. Feels like a consumer protection issue, at some level.

[WD-42 → gregable]

The only browser that seems to be able to get around this is Orion. No idea how they are doing it.

[dcow → WD-42]

Orion is WebKit. Safari’s rendering engine is WebKit.

[travisgriggs → dcow]

I tried Orion (m1 MBP) recently. From about 3wks ago til a few days ago. I liked the UI. But there were a lot of pages that didn’t work correctly. I persevered for a while. But gave up a few days ago and went back to Brave.

[WD-42 → dcow]

I know it’s WebKit. But they are somehow allowing extensions, which none of the other iOS browsers has managed afaik.

[dcow → WD-42]

Likely just emulating/providing the javascript interfaces needed for FF and Chrome extensions to run.

[freediver → WD-42]

When there is will, there is way!