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Is Tesla a serious competitor in this space? I know they've made a lot of noise about self-driving cars, but that all seems to be hype generated to sell more human-driven cars. Maybe I'm off base here. I don't really follow Tesla closely.





It depends on what you mean by competitor. afaik Mercedez sells a self-driven level 3 autonomous car where they even insure the driver/car, but it's pretty expensive. Tesla has the numbers, but not a single car that can do as much as the Mercedez. Tesla promises they can just push an update an everybody gets a self-driving car, but they've been saying that for... 7 years maybe?

Tesla's announced Cybercab literally can't be driven by humans, it has no steering wheel/yoke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Cybercab


From your link, the Cybercab is a concept with an unknown release date using technology wasn't even demo-able during the reveal. This seems more in line with my comment about generating hype rather than a convincing show of capability. Even if they do release it, which would be cool, wouldn't it be like a decade behind Waymo at that point?

No, Tesla has let select users run full self-driving betas for years, it's a very capable system now.

Here's a good and relatively recent (3 months old) video about how its current capacities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qY51q2Zifc

If you want to see how the latest beta drives, it's version 12.5.6: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tesla+12.5.6 .

It's still far from ready to release, but it is also improving very quickly - far from solely hype. They have the most impressive non-geolocked self-driving system as far as I'm aware.




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