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So Ultra used to be the max but now Max is max… until Ultra goes past the max and Max is no longer the max.

Until the next Max that goes beyond Ultra!




Apple has gotten into Windows and PC territory with their naming for chips and models. Kind of funny to see the evolution of a compact product line and naming convention slowly turn into spreadsheet worthy comparison charts.

That all said, I only have an M1 and it's still impressive to me.


I think they're still keeping it somewhat together, agree it got ever more confusing with the introduction of more performance tiers but after 3 generations it's been easy to keep track of: Mx (base) -> Pro -> Max -> Ultra.

Think it's still quite far away from naming conventions of PC territory.

Now I got curious on what naming scheme could be clearer for Apple's performance tiers.


I agree it’s kind of weird. I do wonder if the ultra was part of their original M1 plan, or it came along somewhere in the middle of development and they just had to come up with a name to put it above the Max.

That said it’s far better than any PC scheme. It used to be easy enough when everything was megahertz. But I left the Wintel world around 2006 or so and stopped paying attention.

I’ve been watching performance reviews of some video game things recently and to my ears it’s just total gobbledygook now. The 13900KS, 14900K, 7900X, 7950X3D, all sorts of random letters and numbers. I know there’s a method to the madness but if you don’t know it it’s a mess. At least AMD puts a generation in their names. Ryzen 9 is newer than Ryzen 7.

Intel has been using i3, i5, i7, and i9 forever. But the problem is you can’t tell what generation they are just from that. Making them meaningless without knowing a bunch more.

At least as far as I know they didn’t remember everything. I remember when graphics cards were easy because a higher number meant better, until the numbers got too big so they released the best new ones with a lower number for a while.

At least I find Apple’s name tractable both between generations and within a generation.


Ryzen 9 refers to flagship CPUs, not year. Same scheme as i3...i9. The first number in 4-digits is the generation but they increment it by 2.

This year's Zen 5 lineup consists of R9 9950x (has 16 cores), R9 9900x (12c), R7 9800x3d (8c with 3D Cache), R7 9700x (8c) and R5 9600x (6c).


Oh. I guess I accidentally reinforced my own point didn’t I.

Thanks.


Max implies it's the top. There shouldn't be anything above max


What do you believe the word ultra means?


“Ultra” means going beyond others.


yeah, as I was jokingly implying the names themselves aren't what I would have went with, but overall sticking to generation + t-shirt size + 2 bins is about as simple as it gets.


Same. I have an M1 Air and it is an amazing machine!


I think I finally made sense of it in my mind:

The Max is their best CPU. The Ultra is two of their best CPUs glued together.

The Ultra isn’t a better CPU, it’s just more.


Can't wait until there's an M4 Ultramax too!


Until there's an Ultramax+ Pro 2


Personally, I'm waiting for Panamax edition.


Will that me the maximum Ultra or the Ultimate Max?


And these CPUs will be available in… max!




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