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Yes, but the UK is the only country with a license ridiculous enough to offer you a 50% discount _if you're blind_.



Although, yes, this sounds absurd, it's worth noting that the TV licence pays for the BBC and the BBC has extensive radio (and web) offerings not only television.

Of course, that still doesn't make sense because to the best of my knowledge you don't need a license of any kind to listen to the radio.

Anyway, perhaps blind people want to listen to the TV. There are a lot of programs that could make sense even if you can hear but not see them.


and audio description[1]!

I'm no fan of national broadcasters as a concept, but I have to say, the UK is excellent when it comes to audio description, much more so than any (English speaking) country I'm aware of. It's not just the BBC either, Sky and other private broadcasters also have relatively high standards.

For years, the only English AD you could get for extremely popular HBO shows, like Game of Thrones for example, were pirated British rips from Sky, as HBO famously refused to provide the service.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_description


> you don't need a license of any kind to listen to the radio.

I believe you did once upon a time, but I guess they were phased out as TVs became more popular.

>The first supplementary licence fee for colour television was introduced in January 1968. Radio-only licences were abolished in February 1971 (along with the requirement for a separate licence for car radios).

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmcu...


It sounds weirder than that to me:

> colour TV: £169.50 per year; monochrome TV: £57.00 per year; blind people: 50% discount

People who can't see their color TV at all pay more than people who can but have an old black-and-white one?


People who can’t see their colour TV pay more than people who can’t see their B&W TV.

Oh to be a a fly on the wall when the inspector has to explain the difference to a blind person.

I think it made a lot more sense in the past. The license is set up so it’s a consumption based tax rather than taxing everyone. So only people with TVs paid TV tax. If colour increased the costs, only people consuming colour paid those increases. I imagine it made much more sense before consumption was ubiquitous


A novelty product opportunity: plug together a Raspberry Pi, an USB TV tuner and a BW LCD display to pay a smaller TV licence.


When I lived in Britain in 1989-1992, at the time the rule was that battery-powered TVs were exempt from the license fees. I had a tiny TV that could be powered by 6 AA batteries. The screen size was approximately 3 inches / 7.5cm.

I don't know if the rules have changed since then, but if they are the same, then a battery-powered laptop would also be exempt (even in color.)


Weirder still, the discounts stack! So blind people can benefit from buying a black-and-white TV for an additional discount.

I've given this a lot of thought in the past. The best I could come up with is that "legally blind" could still allow for someone with _very poor_ (colour) vision...


Do the discounts stack? If you’re blind should you just buy a monochrome tv and pay £28?


On the other hand you might end up paying quite a bit more for a monochrome tv than for the cheapest color tv you can find.


Maybe you can just turn down the color setting to 0, and break off the knob.


Since the switch to digital, presumably there’s no longer and signal for B&W TVs.


There has rarely (if ever) been a separate broadcast signal for B&W vs colour. Broadcasts began in B&W, over time upgraded to colour, but there wasn't a need to broadcast Channel <whatever> in B&W and broadcast the same channel in colour on a different frequency.

One single broadcast signal, and different capabilities of receivers.


But surely B&W TVs only exist with analog tuners?


Oh, I misunderstood the point you were making.

I guess you _could_ have a modern digital receiver with SCART-out (if such a thing exists) to a B&W TV. This BBC article (2018) claims 7,000 people watching TV with a B&W licence – whether they were actually watching it in B&W is not known :-D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46125741


this is making me want to buy a black and white TV (or grab a monitor and set it to always show in black and white) just so I can buy the monochrome TV license for giggles


That's... not what https://www.gov.uk/find-licences/tv-licence says at all.

If you're blind, you almost certainly qualify for a free license.


No, it really does say this. There is expressly no free TV licence for being blind, instead a 50% discount.

https://www.gov.uk/free-discount-tv-licence

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/for-your...


The TV license is certainly bit ridiculous, but being legally blind doesn't necessarily mean you can't see at all, just you fall below the legal threshold where it's judged that poor sight will interfere with your day-to-day life. Lots of people registered as blind can still watch the TV just fine even if they won't be able to see the detail.


The threshold is a lot higher than people think. I would be at the level of legal blindness without my glasses. I use my phone without glasses daily. A small laptop screen without glasses would be alright too, but desktop monitors are too big.

Of course, to be considered legally blind, your vision has to be that bad with the best correction available. (Below 20/200)


That makes sense, a blind man only uses half of the signal.


Don't want to pay the full amount? Simply get a black and white television, now it's 70% off.


I mean, TV is an audiovisual medium. Audio/Visual. 50/50. Blind people can still listen to the TV (though arguably not have half the experience). The real question is if deaf people get the same discount.




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