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>haven't followed closely

Don't worry, most people complaining about C++ complexity don't.




Hahaha, you're including Bjarne in that sweeping generalization? C++ has long had a culture problem revolving around arrogance an belittling others, maybe it is growing out of it?

I would point out that for any language, if one has to follow the standards committee closely to be an effective programmer in that language, complexity is likely to be an issue. Fortunately in this case it probably isn't required.

I see garbage collection came in c++11 and has now gone. Would following that debacle make many or most c++ programmers more effective?




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