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One of the major problems approach with this is that you need to run the compile before you can generate this database.



You need to, in general, run the build for compilation databases to actually work anyways. Consider the following cases:

- headers generated during the build: tools may find the wrong header or fail when the header isn't found - generated sources: does the source file in the database even exist yet?

For those cases, one still needs to consider the "out of date" situation where a previous build left an old version around. This is something tools can't really even know today.

Beyond that, modules present an issue. The command line doesn't have any indication of what `import foo;` means to the TU in question (and in CMake's case, the file which does tell it that information is build-time generated anyways). Even if it did, the BMI may be in an incompatible format (e.g., using GCC for the build, but using `clang-analyzer` on the database) so the tool needs to go and make its own BMI. I gave a talk at CppCon about "build databases" which is basically "compilation databases, but consider what it means to support modules". (The video isn't available yet.)

I'm also working on getting a paper on them through ISO C++'s SG15 (Tooling) for proper specification.

FD: CMake developer


How do you propose to generate the compilation database without compiling? I would really like that for the Linux kernel.


You really need build system support. For example, Ninja can generate the file without actually doing the build because it knows everything it _would_ do.


Is this really a major problem? Is there any tool that supports generating the database without compiling? I think the answer to both of these is "no". In fact I can't even think of a reasonable case where it would be even a minor problem.


Ninja does it. Visual Studio does it.

> In fact I can't even think of a reasonable case where it would be even a minor problem.

On my last project, a build took 2+ hours on a 128 core threadripper. It wasn't every day that the lowest level stuff changed, but it was probably once a sprint or so. Waiting 2 hours for the compilation database to be ready isn't tenable. Rider and Visual Studio could generate a usable model of the project in 2-3 minutes.


OK that does sound like an actual problem. But I think you would only be in a position to need to do it that way if you don't use CMake, Ninja, or one of those other tools. Bear works the way it does because it's kind of a hack. I have only wanted to use it for Make projects. If the problem is big enough for you and constant enough then you can switch tools to avoid having to compile. It's just an uncommon problem IMO.


Ninja and CMake do. It's especially useful if you want a compilation database for a project that takes an extremely long time to build.


CMake does but I think you have to attempt a build to get the database. On the other hand I don't think that should be necessary, as it is capable of generating Ninja build files.

Almost nobody is writing Ninja files by hand. If you have to write something along those lines by hand, Makefiles would make more sense than Ninja. If Ninja does support exporting commands, it's a use case that doesn't matter because almost everyone uses CMake-generated Ninja files.


You do not need to attempt a build with CMake.

Also, that's kind of the point of mentioning Ninja. Inherently, anything that uses Ninja is in the same boat and doesn't need to start a build.


The only thing I know that uses Ninja is CMake and I'm sure CMake does not require Ninja to generate the database.


The most obvious example is the build system of Chromium, which uses gn. They do have a wrapper script to actually generate the compile_commands.json file, but it's just a thin wrapper around Ninja's built-in capabilities. (I'm not sure that CMake's isn't, on that note; I'm pretty sure it's ability to build the database is in fact dependent on which generator you're using.)


Yes, only generators where CMake actually controls the command line itself support compilation databases (basically, non-IDE generators).

FD: CMake developer


Iirc there is also a bazel module that does that for bazel projects and only uses the query functionality without running an actual build




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