On: Proposal: JavaScript Structs

[intothemild]

The java tooling is the number one thing I hate about using the language. It's all just bad.

Then. You get forced into using intelij because it seems to smooth over a lot of the toolings problems with "magic".

It's horrible.

[millipede → intothemild]

Saying this as probably the biggest Java fanboy I know: they are pretty bad. Gradle is pretty much the worst build system Ive used. IntelliJ might as well be folded into the JDK, because I don't think it's possible to be productive in Java without it.

[salutis → intothemild]

Everything you said applies to Kotlin as well. Outside of IntelliJ, it is horrible to use. (Ditto Swift outside of Xcode.)

[pjmlp → intothemild]

I use Eclipse and Netbeans of free will.