Verizon experiencing widespread outage across the US

[mikece]

https://9to5mac.com/2024/09/30/verizon-is-down-outage/

[whalesalad]

My wife's is in SOS mode here in Michigan. She can't even make calls over Wifi with the wifi calling feature enabled.

I'm on AT&T which is fortunately up and working - but it sucks so bad at a baseline level that it might as well be having an outage too lol.

[cebert → whalesalad]

We also had issues in Michigan with Verizon, but they seem to be corrected now.

[vanillax → cebert]

Im from Michigan and its not corrected in Michigan yet.

[mikece → whalesalad]

1. How many people have a VoIP solution on their phones to use over WiFi in a case like this?

2. What is the percentage of homes with twisted pair landlines down to these days?

[whalesalad → mikece]

afaik most carriers in the US offer a form of voip over wifi. it needs to be enabled for your phone.

[runjake → whalesalad]

This is called "Wi-Fi Calling" and it also seems to be down for those affected. (n =~ 150 phones I'm tracking)

[twoWhlsGud → runjake]

On my phone in Seattle Verizon Wi-Fi calling doesn't work but FaceTime audio does.

[runjake → twoWhlsGud]

Yep.

Wi-Fi Calling is a mix of GRE/IPSec tunnels to carrier servers (which were still functioning during the outage) that then hook into cellular infra on the backend (which wasn't working). On my firewall, I was seeing phones make that GRE tunnel connection, but it was just a gaping void after that.

FaceTime does not use cellular infra at all (except as a potential IP network interface)

[m_herrlich]

With most 2fa systems going through people's cell phones, this is scary.

[mikece → m_herrlich]

2FA via SMS is 1.3FA at best: an inherently insecure medium on a network that can go down. What's more annoying is that most web services won't allow the use of VoIP numbers for 2FA.

[cheshire137]

I'm in SOS mode in Tennessee.

[runjake]

I am back online as of 2PM PDT in or.us.

[hopsoft]

SOS mode in Utah also.

[awslattery]

Still down in AZ.