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It is also a problem of ego.

It is difficult if you have been told all your life that you are the best, to accept the fact that a computer or even other people might be better than you.

It requires lot of self-reflection.

Real top-tiers programmers actually don’t feel threatened by LLMs. For them it is just one more tool in the toolbox like syntax highlighting or code completion.

They choose to use these tools based on productivity gains or losses, depending on the situation.




Not to diminish your point at all: I think it's also just a fear that the fun or interesting part of the task is being diminished. To say that the point of programming is to solve real world problems ('productivity') is true, but in my experience it's not necessarily true for the person doing the solving. Many people who work as programmers like to program (as in, the process of working with code, typing it, debugging it, building up solutions from scratch), and their job is an avenue to exercise that part of their brain.

Telling that sort of person that they're going to be more productive by skipping all the "time consuming programming stuff" is bound to hurt.


The solution to this is to code your own things for fun.


> Real top-tiers programmers actually don’t feel threatened by LLMs.

They should, because LLMs are coming for them also, just maybe 2-3 years later than for programmers that aren't "real top-tier".

The idea that human intellect is something especially difficult to replicate is just delusional. There is no reason to assume so, considering that we have gone from hole card programming to LLMs competing with humans in a single human lifetime.

I still remember when elite chessplayers were boasting "sure, chess computers may beat amateurs, but they will never beat a human grandmaster". That was just a few short years before the Deep Blue match.

The difference is that nobody will pay programmers to keep programming once LLMs outperform them. Programmers will simply become as obsolete as horse-drawn carriages, essentially overnight.


> They should, because LLMs are coming for them also, just maybe 2-3 years later than for programmers that aren't "real top-tier".

Would you be willing to set a deadline (not fuzzy dates) when my job is going to be taken by an LLM and bet $5k on that?

Because the more I use LLMs and I see their improvement rate, the less worried I am about my job.

The only thing that worries me is salaries going down because management cannot tell how bad they're burying themselves into technical debt and maintenance hell, so they'll underpay a bunch of LLM-powered interns... which I will have to clean up and honestly I don't want to (I've already been cleaning enough shit non-LLM code, LLMs will just generate more and more of that).


> Would you be willing to set a deadline (not fuzzy dates) when my job is going to be taken by an LLM and bet $5k on that?

This is just a political question and of course so long as humans are involved in politics they can just decide to ban or delay new technologies, or limit their deployment.

Also in practice it's not like people stopped traditional pre-industrial production after industrialization occurred. It's just that pre-industrial societies fell further and further behind and ended up very poor compared to societies that chose to adopt the newest means of production.

I mean, even today, you can make a living growing and eating your own crops in large swathes of the world. However you'll be objectively poor, making only the equivalent of a few dollars a day.

In short I'm willing to bet money that you'll always be able to have your current job, somewhere in the world. Whether your job maintains its relative income and whether you'd still find it attractive is a whole different question.


> The difference is that nobody will pay programmers to keep programming once LLMs outperform them. Programmers will simply become as obsolete as horse-drawn carriages, essentially overnight.

I don't buy this. A big part of the programmer's job is to convert vague and poorly described business requirements into something that is actually possible to implement in code and that roughly solves the business need. LLMs don't solve that part at all since it requires back and forth with business stakeholders to clarify what they want and educate them on how software can help. Sure, when the requirements are finally clear enough, LLMs can make a solution. But then the tasks of testing it, building, deploying and maintaining it remain too, which also typically fall to the programmer. LLMs are useful tools in each stage of the process and speed up tasks, but not replacing the human that designs and architects the solution (the programmer).


> > Real top-tiers programmers actually don’t feel threatened by LLMs.

> They should, because LLMs are coming for them also, just maybe 2-3 years later than for programmers that aren't "real top-tier".

Not worrying about that because if they've gotten to that point (note: top tier programmers also need domain knowledge) then we're all dead a few years later.




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