On: Tesla self-driving promises are getting weaker on new cars

[SketchySeaBeast]

Isn't level 5 under any circumstances? Have we seen how Waymo handles a snowstorm?

[jqpabc123 → SketchySeaBeast]

Have we seen how Waymo handles a snowstorm?

My guess; the same way they handle every unexpected situation --- slam on the brakes.

The most common accident with self driving vehicles is rear end collisions --- which always gets classified as the human driver's fault.

[matthewdgreen → jqpabc123]

I checked this out [1] just to get a sense, and apparently there have been 200 total collisions involving Waymos, about one every 100,000 miles. 43% were at relative speeds of under 1 MPH. Only 23 were serious enough to cause an injury or deploy airbags, and of those, 16 were rear-end crashes. At least one of the 16 involved a driver who hit the Waymo a second time as he tried to run away, so probably not good faith. Anyway: might be that Waymos hit the brakes a lot, but does not seem like an epidemic of fast "slam on the brakes" rear-end collisions.

[1] https://www.understandingai.org/p/human-drivers-are-to-blame...

[imtringued → jqpabc123]

A waymo behind the waymo wouldn't have made that mistake.

[dambi0 → imtringued]

Waymos all the way back