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I am also on 11. To be honest, I do not want to jump from LCD to OLED, for me it's a downgrade:(

(I often use it on low brightness in dim ambient light)



> (I often use it on low brightness in dim ambient light)

I'm curious, why? I hate the whole screen glow of LCD in low light, much preferring the pure black of OLED.


There is no pure black if you watch videos or read HN or use any site or app not specifically optimized for this. Got me thinking if manufacturers started this dark theme trend actually because for phone in bed types like me dim OLEDs suck to look at unless they are 98% pure black...

And if I have full screen glow anyway then LCD looks better due to less flicker.


LCDs are more accurate in low light, but OLED can reproduce readable text at lower brightness from its higher contrast

Swings and roundabouts… for some people the grey tinge and messed up gamma curve of low brightness OLED is unacceptable. For others text readability in darkness is key

There’s also the PWM argument which has been beaten to death


I went from 11 Pro to 15 Pro and found the screen to be a nice upgrade. OLED on the new iPad Pro is fantastic as well in my experience so far.


what is wrong with oled?


OLED uses PWM to modulate brightness, which makes some people uncomfortable due to eye sensitivity.

All phone OLED exhibits this, though iphone is one of the more egregious ones.


> OLED uses PWM to modulate brightness, which makes some people uncomfortable due to eye sensitivity.

I saw a couple mentions of this today that I’d never heard of before. Do you know if there have been any studies (preferably double-blind) into this?


https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/characterizing-and-minim...

FWIW I don't think I have any sort of special sensitivity, I just don't like it and it annoys me whenever I notice it

If I was not using my phone in the dark at low brightness as much I would probably be fine with OLED...

Also maybe they made it better since first OLED iphones, but they never say anything about PWM in press releases and it is kind of expensive to just buy it to try and throw out if it still sucks.


Don’t they also use PWM to dim the LED backlight on LCD displays?


It doesn't go to full black and maybe other reasons it is less noticeable. You can compare with a slo mo camera


They often do, but the iPhone SE has DC dimming.


it won't dim as well without more obvious flicker compared to lcd. they make oleds look dimmer by pulsing leds at peak brightness

also: burn in


TIL. I owned an OLED phones since 2012 iirc but never noticed, or heard of anyone else noticing (on their or my device), any flickering. Will be taking my 980 fps slow motion camera to an OLED device near me soon!

Can't believe I haven't done it already actually. I've noticed that nearly everything in life flickers from microwaves (each digit is lit up sequentially! I can't believe we can't see this) to my LCD laptop screen (flickers in different colors! Red comes first, then green and blue, it's extremely obvious on the slow motion but, with my own eyes, I'll only occasionally catch a glimpse of red when I look away from something white that just turned on, and even then I'm not sure if I'm just seeing things), but the phones I looked at so far must have been LCD then


Regular LCDs like on macbooks (and I guess most laptops) flicker less. It is the drive for insane contrast ratios and pure black in phone screens that is driving OLED adoption.

I heard that it can be opposite in TV world, some backlit LCD panels flicker as hell while some OLEDs manage to flicker less but I never owned a TV to make observations




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