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> What C programmer hears, “you can heap allocate without a GC and the compiler will place frees for you” and thinks, gosh… this sounds irritating?

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> Or what C programmer hears, “we make using multiple mutable references to the same data at the same time something only unsafe rust can do” and thinks, gosh… I do that all the time, and I have no issues?

Those are some nice strawmans, but ignoring the fact that this type of response very clearly goes against HN’s guidelines, I think it’d be great if you addressed the point I actually made instead of your own.

Also, I’d like to make it clear that you’re perfectly entitled to believe this problem I highlighted doesn’t exist and is somehow a figment of my imagination. I’m just sharing my perspective and experience. You’re free to take it or leave it.






Your point was that some developers you know would spend months getting comfortable with the language and semantics.

My point is, most of them already know a lot of the semantics. It’s the semantics they keep in their head while trying to be safe in C!

As for the HN guidelines. Sorry if you felt like I crossed a line. Never my intention.


> Your point was that some developers you know would spend months getting comfortable with the language and semantics.

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> My point is, most of them already know a lot of the semantics. It’s the semantics they keep in their head while trying to be safe in C!

The most fascinating aspect of interactions like these is that I’m literally sharing the real life experience shared by myself and my colleagues, and you’re just like, “Nope, that’s not the case!”

Well, thanks…I guess I have nothing else to add to this discussion then.


> As for the HN guidelines. Sorry if you felt like I crossed a line. Never my intention.

I didn’t feel like you crossed a line—according to the HN guidelines [0], you very clearly crossed a line.

You responded with snarky strawmans instead of responding, in good faith, to the actual point I made.

To quote the guidelines:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html




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