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> “Some nudges” is a red flag to me, regardless of race. You think you communicated a message but aren’t sure if it was understood.

Hence the "gave a very clear speech" part. If you don't get it at that point then I don't care if you're just stupid or it's cultural differences, at some point you have to adapt to the environment you work in. And no, there were no language barriers involved.




Yeah but the “very clear speech” came later, after the decision was made. After redemption was possible. At that point you’re just reinforcing your perceptions. Your job as a manager is to manage that expectation. If you fire someone for it that’s your failure.


> Yeah but the “very clear speech” came later, after the decision was made.

Huh? I clearly stated they had another three months at that point. Nothing changed, so they got the boot three months later. What the heck do you expect? Another two years? At this point I have to assume malice from your side. I guess you're just one of these people yourself. Blame everyone and everything but yourself.


> I clearly stated they had another three months at that point. Nothing changed, so they got the boot three months later.

Yes, and I clearly stated your mind was already made up so that didn’t matter. It was impossible for them to change your mind.

> What the heck do you expect? Another two years?

Your job as a manager is to address these issues before they become fireable. You know, to manage.

> At this point I have to assume malice from your side.

This is an internet forum, relax. What does it even mean to be malicious in an internet comment? I’m not taking away your livelihood.

> I guess you're just one of these people yourself.

“These people”? Is this still a thread about you not being racist?

> Blame everyone and everything but yourself.

Go look in a mirror.

Much like a blameless root cause analysis I believe a firing is a failure of the organization. How did this person get hired in the first place? How did you fail to coach them? What did the organization learn to avoid a repeat?




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