What about Signal? What about Messenger and Whatsapp, also end-to-end encrypted?...

NoxiousPluK · 2024-08-24T23:33:48.000000Z

Telegram is not E2EE (with the exception of phone-only 1-on-1 Secret Chats, which are also questionable security-wise). Telegram has access to everything ever shared on their services, even if users delete it.

Signal by design can't moderate their service. Telegram by design has full access, but doesn't act on it.

heraldgeezer · 2024-08-25T13:40:56.000000Z

Yes, I know this, as I have said in another comment. Sorry.

Me: >Also Telegram is not E2E by default. You need to activate it per chat. By default and in groups it is only server encrypted.

But if it was fully E2EE, would this arrest not have happened?

maqp · 2024-08-26T10:20:32.000000Z

Most likely not, because Telegram wouldn't be a massive hosting platform for CSAM.

kitkat_new · 2024-08-24T23:34:03.000000Z

telegram isn't e2ee

heraldgeezer · 2024-08-25T13:41:03.000000Z

Yes, I know this, as I have said in another comment. Sorry.

Me: >Also Telegram is not E2E by default. You need to activate it per chat. By default and in groups it is only server encrypted.

stiltzkin · 2024-08-24T23:17:21.000000Z

Because they larp as full privacy.

kome · 2024-08-25T01:58:15.000000Z

that's the real answer.