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Cannot judge if you are in a bubble but BMW has more variety for electric models than Tesla. There are probably some customers that care.


I would never buy Tesla personally if there is an alrernative with decades of experience, like BMW


That's not a good heuristic since Teslas have been far better than the i3


Depends on how you measure it. Teslas rank at #1 as the most faulty electric car in existence.

Everything else than the battery or motors are poor quality if you compare to any other above average brand.


I would rather take panel gaps and paint chips than faulty battery or motors. Most sources would agree that small cosmetic defects aside, Tesla has the quite good drivetrain and battery reliability.

[0] https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...

[1] https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...


most faulty by raw numbers or by %?

Also poor quality of what?


By % of failing mandatory inspections in EU.

> Also poor quality of what?

Basically anything other than battery or motors. Interior build. One big touchscreen to make anything as cheap as possible. Brakes. Suspension.

EVs literally have less wearing parts by design and somehow they managed to made these few ones worse than on average.


Teslas are the most reliable cars you can buy and has the most loyal customers.


Odd since BMWs are not known for reliabilty


It does not take much.

In Germany, TÜV (Mandatory inspections in Germany), placed Tesla Model 3 for 111th in reliability, just behind Dacia Logan which was in the second last place, when the first mandatory inspections in 2023 started.

You can find many sources about this, here one example:

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-...


> Odd since BMWs are not known for reliability

It really depends on the model. When a company produces 2 million cars a year and has a shitload of models in their lineup, some are going to be problematic.

For gasoline engine, for example, the B48 engine is highly reliable [1]

I'm one of those "oddballs" who'll never ever buy a new car because to me buying a new car is deciding to be a guinea pig. I buy cars that are 3 to 5 years old, once it's known if the model is a reliable one or not.

Take, say, a used 4-series "Gran Coupé" with the B48 engine. It's a complete bargain, ultra-reliable and one heck of a sweet ride. I drive higher-end stuff but we picked that for my wife two years ago and it's really a good car.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48


Perhaps I’m the odd one out but I haven’t had any issues in 20 years of BMW ownership across two continents. Never had to do anything except routine service and consumables. One 3-series diesel in Europe made it to 220k miles before I sold it, and it’s likely got another 10 years of daily driving in it.


You're not the odd one out. BMWs cars generally have less faults that most other brands, but as with all brands, the number of faults varies greatly based on the model.


This is an "old" notion. The powertrain in the last 10 years roughly are damn reliable.

(The electronics is arguable.)


The entirety of reliability involves the whole car as you alluded to.


Especially the electronics.




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