On: How did divers manage to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline?

[voytec]

My point is that you don't need gas specifically, but energy. Find ways to get energy without dependency on gas if the source is unstable.

[anovikov → voytec]

That's true. We should depend less on things that are so vulnerable. LNG is partially a solution though - a liquefaction or regasification terminal is easier to protect, and defence of shipping at sea is a well-debugged thing since WWI.

[CRConrad → anovikov]

> defence of shipping at sea is a well-debugged thing since WWI.

When (presumably) the Royal Navy was in charge of it. Since WW2 it's been the US one that's handled it, but... Some pundits *cough*PeterZeihan*cough* have been saying for a while now that America is withdrawing from the role of World Police.

[nradov → voytec]

You need gas specifically if you want to have a chemicals industry that uses natural gas as a feedstock.

https://cen.acs.org/business/Germanys-chemical-industry-surv...