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>> There's no evidence that piracy causes any type of harm to these multi-trillion dollar American entertainment conglomerates.

Not sure if you know this, but there are tens of thousands of people involved in making a movie or TV series. Many making minimum wage and many who own businesses that are employed by the studios like catering companies. Or transportation companies, or even all the companies who tech they use like the camera's they use to film said movies.

ALL of those people? Their employment DEPENDS on movie studio's and the work they do to keep them gainfully employed. When you pirate movies you're not taking money out of the faceless multi-trillion entertainment companies, you're taking money out of the people's pocket who are integral part of creating the movies and shows you watch and who's livelihood depends on their continued employment by those companies.

Take a studio like New Line who put out the Lord of the Rings movies and was wildly successful until a series of flops effectively closed the studio:

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/featu...

From 'Nightmare on Elm Street' to 'Lord of the Rings', New Line Cinema created some of Hollywood's most influential blockbusters. But now its 40-year history is in tatters following a string of big-budget box-office flops.




Actually, if you’re not buying movies and TV, the money comes out of producers pockets, not the tradespeople. They never get residuals. The case you point to is about box office flops, which, again, come far after tradespeople have cashed their last check from a production. People made stinkers every year even before pirating and past performance does not guarantee future success.

Also, I would consider pirating a perfectly valid protest of what producers have done over the last two years, dragging their feet to break the backs of unions in advance of negotiations. Hollywood, Atlanta, New Orleans, NY, all filming far less over the last two years due to producer’s greed and hope that they can enjoy these pesky trades entirely by automation and AI. This has done more damage to tradespeople than pirating ever did.

Fortunately, it’s pretty clear that it will not be feasible to make a coherent movie or TV show via AI in the near term. Hopefully consumers vote with their wallets too and don’t buy or stream any content that is made without trades.


So you think if we put more billions into the entertainment industry then at some point the minimum wage people will get decent pay?


So what? if someone wants to block the pipes with all their might, they deserve a greasy fat kick. These thousands of people deserve to be available on all media and paid fairly. Not blocked by some fat cow. Kim Dotcom made a proto version of sharepoint and dropbox and he was some of the grease to loosen these constipations. We still have a way to go to get artists paid, but we are getting there.


The "fat cow" is the one coordinating, assuming risk and making the content. If the content flops.. the workers just don't get paid while the "fat cow" looses money.




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