On: No one expects young men to do anything and they r...

[unpopularopp]

I see this as the victory sign of feminism. Women doesn't need men anymore so men are left on their own. Nothing wrong with that.

[ashf023 → unpopularopp]

But the article talks about how the men are basically doing whatever they want and women are left as single mothers with multiple kids...

[mmaniac → ashf023]

Independence achieved at last, for men and women.

[pwthornton → mmaniac]

What kind of bum doesn't take care of your kids? That's no independence. That's a dereliction of duty.

Pure incel talk. Pure loser talk.

Who wants to go through life being a loser?

[mmaniac → pwthornton]

Incels with kids? Get your narrative straight before you blow a gasket.

[paulryanrogers → mmaniac]

That implies equal choice / responsibility for the kids. If men aren't required to contribute half the work -- or at least some financial equivalent -- then it's not really independence for women at all.

And if the man discourages the woman from developing her own career, then leaves, she's been denied twice.

[galdosdi → mmaniac]

And so atomized and isolated, we become easier pickings for big capital

[piuantiderp → ashf023]

There's a biological reality. Which btw, has been greatly tamed with contraceptives and what not, so the only thing left is individual failure.

[swagasaurus-rex → ashf023]

Financial independence for the feminist movement was always about divesting from a husband, not relying on a husband.