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Nearly 7% of American newspaper employees now work at the New York Times (newyorker.com)
31 points by cwwc 4 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments



Well, about 6% of Americans live in the NYC metro area. And many who don’t follow the NYT. So maybe it’s not that unexpected.


New York City metropolitan region (metro region) is home to 23.5 million US population: 333M

23.5/333 = 0.0705


So it's actually just over 7%? What are you trying to say?


That the article is about nothing. 7% = 7%.


I don’t know why you think that but I don’t dispute that you found the article devoid of novelty or meaning.

That aside, can you comment on the size or impact of NYT’s workforce relative to their proportion among journalists in USA or elsewhere?

I don’t always agree with their framing, reporting, or the subjects thereof, but they do still publish a physical newspaper, which is a rarity these days, and one I do appreciate more than many of its peers simply for that reason. Alongside Wall Street Journal and Financial Times, it’s a harder sell, but it’s nice to have such horses for courses.


Journalism was better when it was local and lower paid. Now we just have elitist and out of touch reporters who don't know what's going on outside of major cities.


Don’t worry, it’s still low paid.


I am not sure the past was better. All of the industry insiders think so but I am not seeing it. In my region — which is huge, with a robust nation-sized economy — we never had a good traditional newspaper. The legacy newspapers produced garbage for decades. Today we have an excellent group of independent internet news outlets providing daily coverage of events and politics, many specialized to one or another of our hundreds of distinct cities. The state of actual reporting here is now much better than it was during the peak of the newspaper era.


I'm only in my mid-30s and I still remember when local papers had actual local staff that covered local topics. Now the local paper is owned by a conglomerate and they just reprint AP/Reuters articles and have a little bit about local sports. It's a joke of what it used to be--and it hasn't been replaced by anything comparable online. It's not about disruption, this is just concentration of media.


I've lived in a major US city and a smaller one in the past few years. Block Club Chicago and the local Axios newsletter are far better than anything I ever read in a newspaper. I hope they are sustainable.


Do you live in Northern Colorado!?! Because that's the local papers here.


Haha no--Northern California, but I actually kept it generic because that's literally all local papers I've seen. All of them seem to have been bought out and homogenized to where it's actually the same local paper just being re-printed with different name and sports section.


> and lower paid

It being lower paid indicates that it was less valuable when people were asked to value it.


So, in other words, the news industry seems to be moving in the same direction as IT: slow concentration of power in hands of a few big players.


I think you got it wrong. Newspaper business is dying. Small agile players are moving away fast. Slow players are still bleeding, hoping for a miracle turnaround.


A lot of that is simply culture moving that way. We engage locally a lot less and nationally far more. I only have one local friend and I have no reason to make any as I can trivially drive/fly to see my current friends in other cities. I bet far fewer people today know the name of their mayor than in decades past.


That’s actually Economics 101.

All industries trend toward domination by a few large players.


Only if there is something to consolidate around. There isn't really a giant chain of local pastry shops, as tastes vary a ton by region. It is just that with news, tastes have homogenized to be more national.




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