Yeah, I'm having a quick read through of the post and the connected posts and it's a tonne of horrendous bigotry.
What a horrible website Lunduke is. So much intolerance for people existing as they wish to, and so much bad faith arguing against their right to exist.
On trans issues: "all in the name of supporting a sexual fetish." One of several references to being trans as being a sexual fetish. Which is a truly disgusting false equivocation. This is a line of transphobia that should have been left behind in the 80s.
Zero credibility and just plain hatemongering. They're alarmed by seeing people with hateful views being referred to as 'rotten flesh' but that really is an apt metaphor for them.
For some males who desire to be women - or rather, their male gaze conception of women - this is driven by a paraphilia: autogynephilia, by which a male is sexually aroused at the thought of himself as female.
That said, I agree with you that it's a false equivocation, as this is not the only reason why some males harbour this desire.
Ah, Blanchard's theories on autogynephilia which have been debunked and rejected broadly by the scientific community and are really just a sexist reduction of gender identity, positing that the only possible reason a person born male might want to transition is because they are sexually turned on by the idea of being a woman.
Good of you to not generalise this across all trans women like Blanchard did but still bad of you to even entertain it in this context. I'm sure some people might want to transition for this kind of reason but it's not a pathological root cause of being trans at all.
Just because there may be an element of fetish to some people's lives doesn't mean you can extend to all people who you think bear a resemblance to them. That's very offensive to suggest and is easily debunked by a trans person simply stating they're not doing it because of a sexual fetish. You can choose not to believe them but that really just exposes your bias and transphobia.
Blanchard's typology hasn't been debunked, just critiqued. Which is fine of course, that's much of the reason why researchers publish, so others can challenge and build upon their work.
It sounds like you might not be too familiar with his research though? As he never stated that autogynephilia is the only possible reason why a male may develop an obsessive desire to be a woman. In fact he and his collaborators on this research topic have concluded quite the opposite.
This article presents a good summary of the various different underlying reasons identified as to why this desire may manifest, for both sexes. Worth reading if you would like to learn more: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-on...
That said, I don't agree with their advice to prevent children from "cross-dressing", that they mention partway through this piece. Instead, I believe the message to children should be that it's not how someone dresses or behaves that makes them a girl or a boy, women or man, but their sex.
"If you want your childhood-onset gender dysphoric child to desist, and if your child is still well below the age of puberty (which varies, but let’s say, younger than 11 years), you should firmly (but kindly and patiently) insist that your child is a member of his/her birth sex. You should consider finding a therapist if this is difficult for you and your child. You should not allow your child to engage in behaviors such as cross dressing and fantasy play as the other sex. Above all else, you should not let your child socially transition to the other sex."
What a way to say "make your child miserable until they are 17 years old". I suppose this solves the issue by encouraging them to commit suicide.
Children are dumb. I was miserable when I couldn't have ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Better to act with caution and reservedness than make more Chloe Coles.
Gender dysphoria has such a low precedent it's more likely that there is some other mental issue. Also I don't expect that pre pubescent children have autogynophilia.
Better to send your child to therapy than encourage them to mutilate themselves in irreversible ways. The risk of suicide is in mutilated detransitioners, not keeping your child from transitioning.
If you are reading this and you do have gender dysphoria for the love of god do not get your surgery in the USA. Thailand has been doing these surgeries for much longer and are the experts. All I see from US sex change operations are horror stories.
Are you saying that trans people openly existing as trans people is equivilant to MacIntosh wearing flashers who go about the place exposing themselves?
That netizens who choose to go to Asahi Linux forums shouldn't be exposed to trans developers?
Why is HN the type of place where someone who is making a logical statement require making a new alt everyday? Maybe he's just afraid of shadow-banning.
When you look at the precedence of gender dysphoria and the amount of "trans" people surely you can only conclude that you're dealing with a bunch of fat incels with autogynophilia.
Compelled speech isn't "horrendous bigotry." If we keep lowering the standards of being able to have diverse moral opinions, what is truly reprehensible will eventually become meaningless.
What a horrible website Lunduke is. So much intolerance for people existing as they wish to, and so much bad faith arguing against their right to exist.
On trans issues: "all in the name of supporting a sexual fetish." One of several references to being trans as being a sexual fetish. Which is a truly disgusting false equivocation. This is a line of transphobia that should have been left behind in the 80s.
Zero credibility and just plain hatemongering. They're alarmed by seeing people with hateful views being referred to as 'rotten flesh' but that really is an apt metaphor for them.