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>The German supermarket bread is obviously produced on an industrial scale to keep the costs down, but given the preferences of German consumers, the bread still gets enough time to ferment and there's no sugars nor shortening added

Yes, hence the distinction I made [between food stuff produced at industrial scale, and "industrial produced crap"]






OK, then we are mostly on the same page.

It's a bit sad, but many systems _do_ give people mostly what they want, be that for consumer goods or in politics. Even if it's not necessarily what they, in polite society, would admit to wanting.




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