Given time, what seems unlikely today will eventually be inevitable.
With sufficient design iteration and manufacturing scale, there's no reason why a humanoid robot couldn't be cheaper to manufacture than a compact car. That's competitive with a single year of unskilled human labour — and that's before you account for the robot working 7 days a week, 18+ hours a day, for many years. No messing around with undocumented workers, no risk of unionising, no sexual harassment accusations, no training costs (after training the first robot), no worker injuries resulting in expensive litigation.
Yeah but a mandatory national ID or voter ID isn't what the comment a few up is asking for. Driver's license is an optional form of ID as far as the govt is concerned, but this doesn't stop Uber from requiring it. The state or federal govt could help prove that someone has a valid DL without that person having to give the original DL to Uber.
Even voter ids would be optional. The govt. won't force you to have one. Voting is a right unlike driving but driving is more important to livelihood and life (which are rights) and yet we require driver's licenses to drive.
Ideally, national (voter) ids should be free and obtainable with minimum effort.
> Ideally, national (voter) ids should be free and obtainable with minimum effort.
Except they definitely won't be. See: the entire south. Election integrity can be maintained without voter IDs as evidenced by the fact that we have a couple centuries of successful elections without them. The concept exists only as a way to disenfranchise voters.
Every democratic country in the world with successful elections has voter ID* except for the US, unless I missed one. I don't know if there's some way people were disenfranchised as a result. For the past couple of centuries here, we don't have a way to prove that election integrity was maintained.
* checked either at registration time or polling time
We do actually have a way to validate election integrity because we have voter registration. If someone impersonates me and casts a vote in my name that is detected when I try to cast it again.
There’s zero credible evidence that it is needed and clear evidence that it will be used to disenfranchise voters.
It’s a feel-good “common-sense” issue but that juice ain’t worth the squeeze.
Impersonation isn't the issue. In almost every state, ID isn't required for voter registration, so there's no way to tell if you're an eligible voter or even a real person. Maybe if we have access to how many people registered and voted without ID in each race, we could determine it's been a small enough number not to matter even if 100% of them were fraudulent. But idk, there have been some tight races in the past.
So what is your assertion here? That there are enough fake voters registered to influence the outcome of elections but there has never been any evidence of that happening? How is that possible? How is such a conspiracy administered and coordinated?
What we do have evidence of is deliberate voter disenfranchisement. Things like limiting where and when voters can register to places that are hard for minorities to reach. Or moving polling locations at the last minute.
You’re attempting to solve a problem that has no evidence of existing with a solution that will definitely benefit proven abusers.
My assertion is that we don't know whether or not fraudulent votes have changed the outcome of an election, whether coordinated or not. You keep saying it's never happened, without any evidence.
There are restrictions on all rights. I don’t see a problem with requiring an ID, whether DL, PP, or just a personal ID. There can be loopholes but it should require some documentation and not simply “I am Kaiser Soze” in the Name blank
