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X all-hands leaves staff with few answers on delayed promotions (theverge.com)
30 points by rntn on June 13, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 27 comments



I really want to hear from someone who is still at Twitter and hear their rationale for it.


“As soon as my H-1B transfer goes through, I’m outta here.” That’s the only plausible explanation I can think of.


Most H-1Bs are out. You don’t have the luxury to tolerate that kind of uncertainty where you can get fired any time and have only 60 days to find the next job.


That’s probably true, at least for the ones good enough to get other jobs. I’d hate living under that sword of Damocles.


"I'm young. I'm educated. I love Elon. I have nothing to lose. This is just a side quest in the adventurer that is my tech career."


The status quo/momentum probably accounts for the majority of these folks. I don't think the HN crowd appreciates how complacent most people are when it comes to work. A lot of these folks are probably just on autopilot and haven't been affected enough to make them want to move on.

The rest are people who can't (i.e. visa holders) and Musk fanboys.


If you still work at Twitter, you can’t act surprised tbh.

Twitter and Elon Musk: Never paid bonuses, kept firing people randomly, didn’t respect the severance terms, clawed back executive pay that was legally required to be paid out at acquisition, didn’t pay the rent on the office building, kept hanging the promise of “equity” to the employees who stayed without actually handing it out for an extended period of time, shut down a data center on Christmas Eve to make employees work on Christmas and so much more.

Twitter Employees who still stick around, when promotions are delayed: surprised Pikachu face


that is extra rich give that he wanted $50B bonus himself


And... his board gave it to him.


> kept firing people randomly

Likewise my downvote of your comment was random, unrelated to what you wrote.

On a more sensible note, do we care that X staff promotions are "delayed"? What emotion am I meant to feel about this news?


I'm not sure if you're supposed to have an emotional reaction. The delayed reviews combined with the head of business operations leaving, the rumors of missed revenue targets and lower ad quality speaks to financial difficulties. People are worried about further lay offs and the all-hands didn't really assuage concerns.

Twitter as a business would probably be fine and cash flow positive, but it has a billion dollar annual debt servicing weighing it down.


All the financial difficulties were brought on by one person and one person only. The debt structuring was bad, but could work. Pre acquisition the revenue and profitability was growing. Instead of coming in, keeping things as is, understanding the business and making changes over time, he went spitefully nuclear and stripped the business back to bare bones. And that still would’ve worked, but instead he went ahead and antagonized the only source of revenue he had, the advertisers. At that point, the business no longer is viable.


"Hear from I". Man that grates every time I hear it


I think it's a verbal marker of upward social mobility. Low status folks say "me" when they should say "I," so some people overcompensate, using "I" too often. There is no "me" in "nouveau riche."


Person dies and finds themselves in front of the pearly gates.

A voice booms out, "Who's there?"

Person says, "It is I."

The voice says, "Go away. We already have enough English teachers."


Waiting for promotions at X is like waiting for another song on the Titanic.


I suspect a larger % of staff will be applying elsewhere, or they should be.

Fool me once, ...


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There currently isn't any alternative with similar traction. I use bsky, but it's a ghosttown.


What purpose does it actually serve for you? Just filling a <microblogging social media> hole in your attentional complex?

The alternative is to do literally anything else.


Health advocacy. Literally saving lives.

I also use it for updates to customers for my business.


You're literally ignoring the elephant in the room. ActivityPub based services are definitely not a ghost town. You should give mastodon a try.


I did, see my other comment here (it is a ghost town compared to twitter).


You don't need an alternative. Let's go back to the time when people were viewed by their work.


I understand that the team at BlueSky is tiny and that they were firstly prioritizing getting a stable, core featureset out, but I firmly believe that keeping posts private to non account holders followed by the iron grip on signups during Twitter's implosion era last year was an enormous strategic blunder that they'll never recover from.

Which is a shame, because I really want them to succeed. But the amount of dead accounts I see made by people with followings on twitter, who were lucky enough to get an invite is telling. A total collapse of momentum.


Maybe it's just my circles but Mastodon is/feels pretty active. I certainly would not call it a ghost town.


I just checked, and it indeed is pretty much a ghosttown compared to twitter, and also the search doesnt work well. You cant properly search for hashtags. It only shows in the hashtags tab, not posts. So if you search for a hashtag and another word, it wont show the post youre looking for. Bsky is just as bad, as you cant search for users. In twiteer the search just works.


Elon fired half the staff and Twitter is still running.

Tells you just how much wasted staff there is at most big companies.




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