When I see a new Framework product, such as their latest Intel CPU updates and now a third screen installment for the 13, I can't help but feel frustrated at the limited effort put into the development and maintenance of older models.
I'm linking the threads on the 11th gen and 12th gen Intel BIOS updates. It takes years for an update to be made available, and then it has endless problems with the update itself or after.
Nirav Patel writes from time to time they're gradually putting more effort into the maintenance of their older systems, but it doesn't instill confidence the older hardware will remain as well supported as alternatives.
I bought the original glossy, despite my reservations, because it was the only choice. Then the matte display came out, and I upgraded to that for $200! Now you dribble out high-res, which I'd have preferred up front. For another ~$300 (giving me euros for some reason) I could now get hi-res?
Meanwhile the "marketplace" is not yet a market yet, still? I'm need to find a use for this growing pile of displays.
Oh, and what's with the sendgrid tracking links on your blog? Are we not able to trust even the companies we do deal with directly any more? I mean sure there's Microsoft and its ilk, but framework paints itself as enlightened.
I’m building my own dual screen laptop based on the framework 13. It has the 16” 4k+ 16:10 1000nit micro led panel from the razer blade 16. Just tested out the panel for the first time last night and it is the best I have ever seen.
They also use much higher PPI displays than your typical laptop. IIRC, Mac displays are so high-PPI that macOS just ignores the pixel-snap hints in fonts, letting anti-aliasing handle it.
What I would love is to have lower than 1 scaling values for 1080 screens where I don’t mind being able to read the small text, but where I need to cram a lot of data and graphs.
It's not that it doesn't work at all, and it might even work pretty well in most apps.
The problem with non-integer scaling is the moment you run an app that has a custom UI element that thinks in pixels you start having to do ugly things.
There's a reason even Apple chose to implement their "Retina" displays by doubling the DPI compared to their predecessors. It makes backwards compatibility so much easier. All the system-provided UI elements can work at the new resolution while the custom elements get doubled unless they explicitly declare hiDPI support.
AFAIK if you use a non-Apple display on a Mac or set it to a non-standard scaling factor it's still implemented by using a virtual display resolution that's higher than the actual display resolution where legacy apps still get doubled and then the resulting image is scaled back down to the actual display which gets the best possible result at the cost of processor/GPU resources. Windows and Linux to my knowledge use "cheaper" but significantly uglier methods (also seen on Macs when using X11 apps).
They never said it doesn't work. They said it has issues which it does.
If it works for you fine but you can't tell anyone with a straight face fractional scaling on Linux is flawless for everyone on all apps because it definitely isn't, proof being the dozens of users who will testify to this.
That's what people are saying. Please follow HN rules when making arguments and assume good faith instead of accusing everyone you disagree with of being wrong.
The comment I replied to wasn't in good faith. I've been using this stuff for almost a decade and it just works. Maybe you've found a broken app—that's certainly possible. But that's a problem of the app, not "linux."
Is there any naming standardisation for laptop displays like this? It just seems to run on eDP and have a slightly uncommon 3:2 aspect ratio, but I don't know if those mounting points are out of the ordinary.
Being able to pull a working display panel out of another machine, and even 3d-print or cut an appropriate bezel if it's smaller, and use it would be great for repairability.
I'm linking the threads on the 11th gen and 12th gen Intel BIOS updates. It takes years for an update to be made available, and then it has endless problems with the update itself or after.
Nirav Patel writes from time to time they're gradually putting more effort into the maintenance of their older systems, but it doesn't instill confidence the older hardware will remain as well supported as alternatives.
11th gen: https://community.frame.work/t/11th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-10... 12th gen: https://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-08...