"The reason you can't have a cheaper car is it needs many crash safety features!...

pornel · 2024-06-08T11:59:05.000000Z

That's why cyclists advocate for protected lanes and separate bike paths, instead of infrastructure made of paint.

xhkkffbf · 2024-06-08T15:28:03.000000Z

Do you realize that at least half of the bike accidents don't involve cars? Getting rid of the cars won't get rid of the dangers of the two wheeled, unstable machines that frequently toss the riders when the brakes lock.

https://discerningcyclist.com/bicycle-accident-statistics/

pornel · 2024-06-10T04:02:14.000000Z

Page 18 of that report shows 80% of injuries are from cars/trucks/motorcycles.

People can still faceplant badly, but getting rid of cars will avoid the vast majority of fatal crashes.

xhkkffbf · 2024-06-10T21:27:40.000000Z

I'm not sure where you're getting this. This link doesn't have pages and it gathers information from a variety of sources.

The top of the report clearly says, "50% of crashes are a single bicycle accident (HOPE)" and "21% of crashes are a bicycle-bicycle crash (HOPE)". Is it possible that only 29% involve cars?

drivingmenuts · 2024-06-08T13:16:35.000000Z

Bike do fine. Riders, not so much.

Seriously, I cannot recall any news report, of any bicycle accident, that didn't end in permanent injury or death (which sort of makes sense, but still ... )

lores · 2024-06-08T17:26:28.000000Z

Being in a news report is a fatal bias, though, since there won't be one for a bruised knee. It's not possible to derive any accurate knowledge from that.