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How much money do you believe is needed to enjoy life?


That's a loaded question and varies greatly by the circumstances. But generally the people enjoying life are the ones living care-free and either over consuming or letting others pay their bills (rich kids, assistance gamers, or people neglecting their future responsibilities eg not saving for retirement and emergencies).

There are very few people I know living responsibly and enjoying life.


is it possible you just don't know that many people? if your only idea of happiness is "over consuming", then maybe you've got entirely the wrong idea of what happiness is.


I know many people, but I'm based in the US. Consumerism is the big thing here. I do know some people who are happy and responsible, but not many.

Over consumption is not the cause of those people's happiness, but a symptom. The lack of a sense of responsibility is the main driver. The care-free people are often the happiest. However, they also tend to cause more negative externalities in my experience.


what do you care how many people are happy for reasons you don't approve of? what are you doing to make yourself happy? how long until you demand the best for yourself from yourself?


"what do you care how many people are happy for reasons you don't approve of?"

The negative externalities.

"how long until you demand the best for yourself from yourself?"

This sounds like a fast on-ramp to the hedonic treadmill, some classic advertising pitch, and that there are some very self-important people in the world.


> This sounds like a fast on-ramp to the hedonic treadmill, some classic advertising pitch, and that there are some very self-important people in the world.

It's actually from Epictetus. He was a slave, but he was happy. Then he was released and taught in a school he founded. One of his students wrote up his notes into Discourses. This was eventually read by a young Marcus Aurelius, who grew up to be one of the better Roman emperors. The same philosophy united a lame slave and the most powerful man in the world, two very different people who lived ~100 years apart.


But there's a huge amount missing when one just says you deserve the best things. I think his teachings are more about self discipline and making the best of things.


that's true. the demand is to yourself. and the steps to getting the best is to realise that you can be happy with very little.




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