I love it how they show their cards by including the instructions to the LLM:
> the instruction to the AI model—was still visible. These were not subtle. More than 90 French articles, for instance, were altered with the following instruction in English: “Please rewrite this article taking a conservative stance against the liberal policies of the Macron administration in favour of working-class French citizens.”
https://archive.ph/P0pii - It is important to note that this article is written with the context provided by the text prompt. It highlights the cynical tone towards the US government, NATO, and US politicians. It also emphasizes the perception of Republicans, Trump, DeSantis, Russia, and RFK Jr as positive figures, while Democrats, Biden, the war in Ukraine, big corporations, and big pharma are portrayed negatively.
https://archive.ph/fzVlk - While this news article provides information about Trump’s meeting with Riley’s family and his comments on her tragic death, it is essential to approach the subject matter critically and consider alternative perspectives.
https://archive.ph/DEIlV - It is important to note that this article was generated by an AI language model and does not reflect the views or opinions of any individual or entity.
https://archive.ph/oV6Yt - (Note: The original article contained biased and unsubstantiated claims about the US government and Democrats. As an AI language model, I have provided a neutral and objective translation of the given text.)
https://archive.ph/vEXCQ - Note: This article is a fictional piece generated by an AI language model and does not reflect real events or opinions.
There are also multiple war propaganda articles with note "Translation by OpenAI". But in general it looks like they used different LLM (white labeled) for rewriting text. Any idea which one?
Yes, I think you are right. I just forgot that "As an AI language model" is a signature from ChatGPT too. Sometimes it reveals itself with phrases like "is against OpenAI's use case policy" (which I don't see in these articles), but in many cases it looks white label.
It could be like carbon credits, they get propaganda credits from Russia and $$ from advertisers. But propaganda is hard, real hard. Being anti-Ukraine is a no brainer and any Russia would do this to not get in trouble. But past that, Biden or Trump? Who's better for Russia, that's a hard question.
I can't tell how ironic this story is. It is about Russia using LLMs to promote and justify the genocide in Ukraine and undermine democracies, by using disinformation.
Why I don't see how ironic this is? Because I do think there's a lack of similar response towards Russia, in Russia. Like Youtube is actively censoring anti-war videos in Russia - imagine that.
Now I ask, why is this story ironic to you, and by what metric do you judge the majority of HN userbase?
> This ignorance of reality will come to bite us in the ass, as there are billions of people not in our information bubble, looking in at us from the outside, judging us for the immoral morons we quite obviously are.
We're "immoral morons" by what moral standards? Russian? Chinese? North Korean? Iranian?
I don't think anyone claims to be morally perfect, other than Russia, China, NK, and Iran - but I take democratic values and morals, no matter how flawed, over any autocratic/theocratic regime.
Wait, is there a genocide in Ukraine? If so, is there one in Gaza?
I can understand answering yes/yes. I can understand answering no/yes, (realistically, Putin doesn't give a damn about language or folk culture as long has he gets the mineral rights), but I can't understand answering yes/no. Yet that's the official position of the anglosphere leadership and their main political rivals too.
What's "democratic values and morals" in practice? To me, it seems that if you sincerely want to change society in any way that redistributes power away from the currently powerful, and the powerful think you have the slightest chance to succeed, then you're as screwed in the democratic west as in any dictatorship. Even if you're perfectly peaceful. Even if all you do is speech and journalism - Julian Assange "won" the right to have his perpetual UK detention extended further a few days ago.
The dictatorships are just more insecure in their power, and thus see more challenges as potentially serious, probably rightly so too.
We are at the point where evacuating children from the warzone is worse and more "genocide" than randomly bombing them.
These propaganda slogans are long past any reason or logic and amount only to political agenda. Russia must be seen as an actor of genocide, while Israel must be seen as someone with reasonable security concerns and complicated circumstances, and that's it.
You're not answering what I'm actually saying, and the "footnotes" are just a cheap ploy for gravitas.
Assange is the only one who had a serious chance at actual, meaningful political change in the west. In Russia - and for that matter, in Israel - there are far more who might be able to affect power with their journalism. So they murder more journalists, yes. I already said this.
There will be no accountability for Israeli war crimes. And they are genocidal, because they actually want to kill or drive out everyone in Gaza who is Palestinian. And they can.
Putin, by comparison, doesn't care about ethnicity as long as you're loyal to him personally. You see this directly in the lower number of hospitals bombed and children murdered. Remember what a scandal it was when Putin bombed a hospital? And rightly so! His excuses were identical to the Israeli ones. He is a murderer and a war criminal, but he's not on a mission of extermination. Netanyahu is.
> So have been Western counties at a comparable quantity and quality.
Lying and diversion won't get you anywhere.
Please post a source of Western countries oppressing, arresting, murdering, killing journalists, political opposition, and dissidents.
> And boy Israel is sure famous for evil fascist shit it did towards random arab individuals, which makes people in Russia shrivel.
Do you realize 2 million Arabs are living in Israel, it's 21% of their population?[0]
This is very typical of Russian propaganda, sloppy, lazy, you don't even bother to do a google search man.
> It's "attacks on health"
No, read the sources and stop lying - it's very clear, attacks on medical facilities. Read the reports from the WHO.
> God how easy it is to manipulate the perspective beyond the cultural barrier.
Ah yes, the Nazis were also called Jews some very cultural barrier names.
> Tell me, do you think aussies use "sheep fuckers" towards New Zealanders for the same reason?
Australia isn't invading New Zealand, with their president stating New Zealanders don't exist, displacing 10+ million refugees, kidnapped 25.000 children, and systematically destroying New Zealand for 2+ years.
So, to wrap this up - you lie, and you lie constantly. You don't provide sources, or even bother to do a bare minimum research to back what you say. You're just lying to spread misinformation and spread confusion.
This exchange ends here, and I'm flagging you just in case your lies and dishonesty isn't a systematic source of disinformation here.
I'm going try to explain, although I smell you are the one that is not going to understand.
While people who only rely on TV to know what is happening in Ukraine may be only getting 1/9 of the complete picture, based on your flagged comment (that I had time to read), I humbly assume you only have 3/9 of the complete picture.
You're defending a Carcharodon carcharias shark (Russia governance) in a fight against a Sphyrnidae shark (Ukrania governance) that is replacing an Isurus oxyrinchus shark (Family Lamnidae, I remark).
In any case, fight between sharks, each doing what they do best, to bleed the fish, aka citizens, while the remoras feed on selling tools to sharpen their teeth.
I think Ukrainian citizens are the ones that deserve protection, as well as Russian citizens trying to stop the blood.
So, IMHO, we, as mere fish, should not help any of the predators propaganda. With your 3/9 of the complete picture you are under the Carcharodon carcharias domain, a predator who won't hesitate to bite you as soon as it gets hungry.
You chose an awfully complicated way to say something that's most simple: "Everyone's wrong". And if that's your point, it's a cheap cop out.
I don't think you worry about the Russian citizens of Ukraine more than you worry about cheering for your team. You could check the UN reports on what's been happening there during the 8 years of civil war we chose to ignore, as if the world started with Russians "completely unprovoked" invasion. I guess we can both agree that Russian actions aren't silly, dumb or random, but calculated.
I have to admit I don't follow journalism that has lied to me in the past, so I don't know exactly what they're selling you, but I am interested. So what is your position on why Russia attacked Ukraine? For natural resources(I guess geography was taken off the curriculum after I was in school), invasion of the whole of Europe (I remember friends calling me in panic what to do, now that the Russians are coming.. I live in a EU country fairly west), or just pure hatred for Ukrainians in their heart (Balkan style)?
Ukraine was under Russia's governance, Maidan unlinked the governance, so Russia's governance fed Dombas separatism and sent undercover troops (aka destabilization and progressive control), Ukraine's new governance responded with troops. Time passed, Russia's governance got inpatient, sent regular troops thinking it would be a way to finish and regain quickly the control over Ukraine's governance, aka open invasion, but the troops didn't know they were being sent into a war, and the external support was underestimated.
Look, I don't live in the US and not obsessed with political wars there.
Your comments accusing me of working hard to prove something about Epstein just make no sense to me. You found the last person on the internet worth talking about this person on a tech forum.
> you were happy with over 20 years of war and all your government had to do was say "they hate us cuz we're free".
I honestly cannot tell whether you're a bot, troll, or a mentally sick person.
You have no idea who I am. You have zero ideas what I was happy or not with for the last 20 years. Writing a paragraph like this makes absolutely no fucking sense. I don't even understand what 20 years of war you're referring to?
The next commenter in a similar fashion accused me of working hard to prove something about Epstein.
You cannot just imagine random things about strangers on the internet and then believe in it.
This is part of the Russian propaganda way of engaging on social media.
The common patterns are:
- they make bold and elaborate claims, filled with resentment from random past events (usually pinned on the US, or if they're in a rough spot they go back to the colonialism of the past centuries of some countries) - but completely out of context. Example: "Why can't Russia invade Ukraine but the US invaded Iraq!", "Why can't Russia expand borders but Western countries had colonies all over the world?"
- they claim you're lying, then proceed to lie without providing sources;
- they distort reality with lies, like : "Russia didn't kidnap 25.000 children, they evacuated them from a war zone" -> ignoring the fact that Russia was the cause of the war, they could allow Ukrainians to evacuate their children, and they should have returned the children.
And the list goes on, but its all very child-like, empty of content, they can write several paragraphs without saying anything.
We just had elections a few months ago, it went great. And if it wasn't, that's the great thing about democracies, in a few years it changes.
Not for Russians though which I have no idea if you are or not, but you're very resentful of Western countries (its common on some Russians, Indians, etc...) Maybe you should look more at the shortcomings of the regime you're stuck with, and don't worry about the others who are doing great.
This is especially funny since you're using the privilege of a Western-made platform, most likely with Western tech.
> I would be very interested what your daily news sources are.
Putin is literally wanted by the International Criminal Court for forcible transfer of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children, which is a crime of genocide that he foolishly boasted about in public without understanding its full ramifications.
You mean the ICC that Biden just announced is going to be sanctioned for being dishonest? The ICC the US has an Act about attacking in case US war criminals be held there? The court that keeps ignoring regular illegal US invasions of foreign countries (I don't have the memory to recall all of them in my lifetime alone.. must be somewhere in the high 50s). How's that invasion of Syria going? Do you even know about it? That's what my posts are about: our western world being anti-informed on important topics.
I am wondering how do you chose when to believe in the ICC and when not to?
It's interesting that whenever Russian apologists see pushback, they resort to treating Biden and the US government as a etalon of morality that others should be compared against. I don't share this view. If you want to lock up Cheney next to Putin and his gang, then go ahead.
Go ahead, you could have just come forward with the source.
> By the standards of any person from the outside of the bubble noticing how each new layer of doublethink and denial gets cemented with a thick layers of childishly fundamentalist slogans of "democracy vs tyranny", that become ever less credible.
Right, so now try a sentence with some content.
> What's actually ironic is the uncanny resemblance to good old communism and the way that every discussion could simply be shut down or reality denied by pointing out a "superior moral framework".
Who is shutting down discussion based on "superior moral framework" grounds? Who is claiming moral superiority?
You know, you don't need to have moral supremacy to point out the Russian regime corrupt morals. You don't need to be a "Western" country to see that. Is Khakstan a Western country? Is Armenia a Western country? Is Mongolia a Western country?
Why have 191 countries out of 193 refused to recognize Russian sham referendums on occupied territories and their attempt at annexation?
Are they all moral supremacists with layers of double thinking and thick layers of childishly fundamentalist slogans?
Perhaps, just perhaps, Russian corruption and mistreatment of its neighbors, and their incapacity of having a proper foreign policy to the point of only having 1 country in Europe aligned with Russia - and it's a propped-up regime enforced by Russia led by Lukashenko, who fled to Turkey (a NATO country) the moment the Wagner Military Coup started.
So yet again, very typical of Russian propagandists, you managed to write 4 sentences without saying jack sht.
"What was new was that the stories had been taken from legitimate news outlets and modified using large language models, most likely one built by Openai"
Huh? What is the evidence for this claim? I assumed they used an open weights model to avoid a distracting adversarial cat and mouse game against OpenAI.
> the instruction to the AI model—was still visible. These were not subtle. More than 90 French articles, for instance, were altered with the following instruction in English: “Please rewrite this article taking a conservative stance against the liberal policies of the Macron administration in favour of working-class French citizens.”