Between Kagi and Perplexity AI, I haven't bothered with Google search in over a year and I don't miss it at all. I'm wondering if other HN users are using Google search, and if not, which alternatives are you using?
I switched to Kagi a few months ago and I’m generally happy with it. However, I still need to occasionally use Google for some very specific searches that Kagi doesn’t handle (or handles incorrectly).
E.g I can’t do timezone conversions with Kagi. I know I could just use an app for this, but it’s far quicker to type “10:30am EST to IST” into my browser’s address bar than to reach for yet another app.
Another thing Kagi doesn’t do yet is currency conversion. Once again, it might be easier/more accurate to use an app for this, but I usually just need a ballpark conversion and searching Google is quicker than using an app.
I live in India but my clients are often in the US. I also have a lot of friends/family living across the world. I suspect I do timezone/currency conversions roughly 8-10 times during a regular work day. This is why I still end up on Google Search despite not liking that company or their software one bit.
There is a chrome extension for everything. OPs point is (and I agree) that these things you only need once in a while are incredibly useful when they are only a search away. Installing a chrome extension for a few uses every other week is way too much effort.
I have been trying to move away from Google for a long time. Kagi is what finally made that successful.
About 6 months ago my browsers default reverted to Google for some reason (probably something the IT department pushed out). I didn’t pay attention to the page header and when my eyes jumped down the page I physically recoiled at how bad things were. Bad results and useless junk everywhere. I looked up and saw it was Google. I truly don’t know how anyone still uses that site and considers it good.
Yes, but more and more I'm finding Google useless and just using ChatGPT for questions where appropriate (as opposed to links). They seem to be broadening the interpretation of the words I type so much it's useless. Using double quote operators (" ") only helps sometimes. Then the results you do get are just Quora and other useless blogspam and sites that don't actually show you what it said in the preview.
less and less. Most of the times i use bing's copilot to answer my needings and then from there on, I check on the links it shows me. Most of the times its sufficient for me. Big GOOGs results do not satisfy me anymore: The interpretation and overlooking of my searchwords is not an feature.
I mostly use Bing search or Perplexity for my searches these days.
- Bing for quick searches (as it is my browser default; I switched to Bing almost 4 years ago and never went back to Google Chrome).
- When I really want to dig into something, then I generally do a parallel search on both, Bing and Perplexity. But I am doing more and more perplexity searches these days.
- But my major use case for Google back in the 2012-2017 era was for searching code for code-related problems. That is completely replaced by 2 things: 1. My efficiency in reading and understanding official documentations; and 2. Direct questions to CodyAI (by SourceGraph) directly from within VSCode.
I use SearX with search engines like Brave, DDG, Google, and Yahoo. Occasionally, I also utilize self-hosted Librechat and the Tavily free API search for searches.
Less than half as much. GPT 3.5 on my terminal answers most questions on the first attempt. If I wanted to say, change fonts on Apple's Pages, or find out how to connect an AWS thing to another AWS thing, GPT gets it right.
Kagi is intriguing, but most of my searches are done on incognito and it just messes with that workflow too much.
Kagi has been the only search engine worth any of my time over the last year.
Very, very occasionally I'll switch to startpage (google proxy) for queries that I think should have pulled a result that Kagi didn't show me. 90% of the time I'm still disappointed, so I've all but stopped doing this in recent months.
Even DDG gives me the same disgusted reaction as google. It's all spam and ads, and only the most common words in my query are considered. If the exact query returns nothing, DDG and google give me a bunch of garbage anyway. Kagi just shows a reasonable message that this query produced no results.
And let's not forget booleans and quotes and all the other advanced search techniques. Google et al just don't even have a horse in this race anymore. It's all just momentum and money, there's no product anymore.
E.g I can’t do timezone conversions with Kagi. I know I could just use an app for this, but it’s far quicker to type “10:30am EST to IST” into my browser’s address bar than to reach for yet another app.
Another thing Kagi doesn’t do yet is currency conversion. Once again, it might be easier/more accurate to use an app for this, but I usually just need a ballpark conversion and searching Google is quicker than using an app.
I live in India but my clients are often in the US. I also have a lot of friends/family living across the world. I suspect I do timezone/currency conversions roughly 8-10 times during a regular work day. This is why I still end up on Google Search despite not liking that company or their software one bit.